National pay rates may be scrapped for public workers

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

Alan doesn't think inciting rioting, terrorism, and murder is extreme

extremists never do ,they always without exception think their actions and words are reasonable,justyfied and logical ...........bit like a politician really

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by martyh

extremists never do ,they always without exception think their actions and words are reasonable,justyfied and logical ...........bit like a politician really

And in the end when they are in prison, they will claim that they are a political prisoner. Whe the real reason they are in prison is to protect the public from their extremist behavior.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Common sense - you can't keep spending money you don't have.....

There is money, but it is in the hands of the rich

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Pragmatism, realism.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17335444

More like, continuing tobeliving in what businesses say, even though they have caused a big economic mess, 6 weeks is not too much to ask!

The cost to the economy would not be that much...

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

And when the credit fuelled boom hit the buffers everybody has to tighten their belts and pay off the debts. The country is no different. The higher standard of living was an illusion that it was convenient for the previous government to keep going as long as possible. Then when it was clear thet it could not be sustained they resorted to scorched earth tactics and budget time bombs in order to say "I told you so, look at the nasty Torys" when they were rightly kicked in the gonads.

We borrow a lot of money because we wanted to have a higher standard of living even though thanks weaker unions and weaker workers rights (along with deregulation), wages was not rising fast enough to pay for it. In the meantime, the rich were taking control of more and more of the capital, in the end the bubble burst and the rich ended up with a lot of money at the expence of us, this has been going on sicne the 80s

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Sorry but you are, Your twitter page backs that up and your facebook page did as well

So standing up for working people make you into an extremist?

Reminds me of the Boers who ran South Africa until the 1990s, they called anyone who wanted the end to apartheid as "Communists" and "Terrorists"

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Originally Posted by LexDiamond

It really is amazing how between Tony Blair coming to office and Gordon Brown leaving office that this country forgot how to live within its means.

There are people like Alan that think luxury is a right and doesn't need to be earnt.

I am saying that hard work should be rewarded and that the working people get a decent standard of living, I am also saying that people should be rewarded by how hard they work and how good they are in work, rather than who you parents are

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