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Old 21-08-2017, 12:04   #346
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban (2040).

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In a future world where automation means there is no need of human employees (or very few jobs where needed) how is the population to survive?

No money = no food on the table. No work = no money. Catch 22.
No, no, you don't understand: It will be a wonderful socialist utopia where everybody has an equal amount of money doled out by the state, there'll just be one type of car and everybody gets one and nobody will need to work.
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Old 21-08-2017, 12:32   #347
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In a future world where automation means there is no need of human employees (or very few jobs where needed) how is the population to survive?

No money = no food on the table. No work = no money. Catch 22.
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No, no, you don't understand: It will be a wonderful socialist utopia where everybody has an equal amount of money doled out by the state, there'll just be one type of car and everybody gets one and nobody will need to work.
There will need to be an answer to this problem though. Even if we develop new industries that can't easily be automated the rate of change will be drastic and a lot of people will lose their jobs. It will even more dramatic if the money from these services funnel into a handful of companies.
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Old 21-08-2017, 12:32   #348
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No, no, you don't understand: It will be a wonderful socialist utopia where everybody has an equal amount of money doled out by the state, there'll just be one type of car and everybody gets one and nobody will need to work.

Heard it all before.

Hopefully I'll be long gone by then.
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Old 21-08-2017, 18:02   #349
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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban (2040).

Forget that cuppa: Charging an electric car at the same time as boiling your kettle will blow your fuse, National Grid warns


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Heard it all before.

Hopefully I'll be long gone by then.

I too will be pushing up Daises by then.
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Heard it all before.

Hopefully I'll be long gone by then.
What another 30 years awaits you yet pip.
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In a future world where automation means there is no need of human employees (or very few jobs where needed) how is the population to survive?

No money = no food on the table. No work = no money. Catch 22.
Big corporations wanting to sell you crap = them providing a chunk of profits to enable us to buy said crap plus the creative industries will flourish, new industries will be born and governments will legislate to ensure a certain amount of people are kept employed or else they won't be selling said crap in those countries
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No, no, you don't understand: It will be a wonderful socialist utopia where everybody has an equal amount of money doled out by the state, there'll just be one type of car and everybody gets one and nobody will need to work.
There'll be one type of car for us and a very different choice for our grand leaders and Eurocrats you can bet.
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Old 22-08-2017, 13:39   #354
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Bloody Eurocrats and their golden self-driving cars!
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Bloody Eurocrats and their golden self-driving cars!
You can be sure it won't be just them.
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You can be sure it won't be just them.
I am hoping I get one in return for being so relentless upbeat on the prospect.
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Homes could be demolished.... under plans to improve air quality in an area with one of the UK's highest pollution levels.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-s...wales-40976647

Only one of the proposed plans, but it shows how the figures can be fiddled by moving vehicles away from monitored areas... or remove the buildings.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-s...wales-40976647

Only one of the proposed plans, but it shows how the figures can be fiddled by moving vehicles away from monitored areas... or remove the buildings.
Wonder what it is about Caerphilly that produces the heaviest pollution outside London. Seems extreme.

Although moving vehicles around can help as it's the concentration of pollution in any one place that is damaging to people's health. The same amount of pollution spread out is better in that respect although I don't know if it has the same impact on the environment or not.

Obviously abolishing homes is a bit over the top. Although looks like the residents aren't opposed as the road seems pretty bad to live on.

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Re: Petrol & diesel vehicles ban (2040).

This is interesting.

The First All-Electric Bus Rapid Transit Route in the U.S.


40miles or 2hrs per charge and 10mins recharge time.
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