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Road use charges are you for them? or against them?
Motorists should be charged for using the UK's road network based on personal circumstances, a new report says.
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However, in its report "Funding Roads for the Future" it said charges for road usage should be introduced which took into account:
whether a driver's journey was on motorways or country lanes
the time of day
how much congestion was on the network
drivers' financial circumstances - for example, whether they were students, pensioners or unemployed
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42792813
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24-01-2018, 15:29
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Re: Road use charges are you for them? or against them?
All depends on how it works.
For instance is this replacing the VED? How will your usage be tracked, and how do you pay?
I'm not sure that financial circumstances should be a thing in most circumstances. If you have a car you should be able to afford all the charges.
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24-01-2018, 15:45
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Re: Road use charges are you for them? or against them?
Sounds like a money tree for whoever gets the contract. It will run over budget and never work.
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24-01-2018, 15:47
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Re: Road use charges are you for them? or against them?
The report is by The Association for Consultancy and Engineering which has a vested interest in securing the revenue stream of its members (and, therefore, itself). The proposal to wring this from the already openly mugged motorist shouldn't be afforded any credence.
Road charges are you for them? or against them? How do you answer Yes or No in the poll?
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24-01-2018, 15:57
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Re: Road use charges are you for them? or against them?
I'd only be for if the total tax take from the motorist remains the same. If they were in addition to all the other taxes, and duties including insurance tax, then no.
Motor taxes raise ove £40bn yet expenditure on roads is only £5bn.
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24-01-2018, 16:27
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Re: Road use charges are you for them? or against them?
The question and answers are ambiguious
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Road charges are you for them? or against them? Yes or No ?
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Yes (or No) could be for either For or Against, depending on how you decide to read it.
Do you actually mean Yes = For, No = Against ?
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24-01-2018, 17:43
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Re: Road use charges are you for them? or against them?
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Originally Posted by Paul M
The question and answers are ambiguious
Yes (or No) could be for either For or Against, depending on how you decide to read it.
Do you actually mean Yes = For, No = Against ?
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Yes means one is for road charges and no means one is against it.
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24-01-2018, 18:28
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Re: Road use charges are you for them? or against them?
Then remove the ambiguity.
Am I for - Yes, Am I against - Yes
Am I for or against - Yes
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24-01-2018, 19:03
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Re: Road use charges are you for them? or against them?
Do you not want to see road charges exist is easier imo?
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24-01-2018, 19:04
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Re: Road use charges are you for them? or against them?
I have edited the options to match the question.
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24-01-2018, 23:51
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Re: Road use charges are you for them? or against them?
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Do you not want to see road charges exist is easier imo?
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I don't understand the question.
Ah just realised It's not a question but a suggestion.
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28-01-2018, 17:57
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Re: Road use charges are you for them? or against them?
I think it'll happen, it'll be a precursor for when driverless vehicles come along.
How will they do it...
mmm I reckon black boxes in the car, techs there, sensors are there for unique id, speed, location, billing, hooked into the DVLA
Gov wil probably 'appear to be generous' by abolishing trad VED, but I bet no one will be better off.
It would be nice to suppose the monies raided will actually go back in maintaining the road network... but let's not be silly.
Let's wait and see, I reckon time frame maybe mid 20's perhaps rolled out area by area to catch bugs.
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28-01-2018, 19:48
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Re: Road use charges are you for them? or against them?
When this was mulled over several years ago, residents of rural villages were up in arms that a lot of traffic was going to be passing their idyllic country homes to avoid the motorways.
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28-01-2018, 20:42
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Re: Road use charges are you for them? or against them?
Against, because it will involve spying on the GPS position of everyone's car. If everyone's absolute location is always known by the authorities, untrustworthy authorities gain supreme power over citizens.
Freedom of movement is lost if you are an otherwise law-abiding target of the state. Of course, none of this matters until the politics of a nation begins to deteriorate even further than it already has...
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28-01-2018, 22:01
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Re: Road use charges are you for them? or against them?
I have not voted, because this is an oversimplification.
If bus travel was free and the routes comprehensive and appropriately frequent, then I would say yes.
Otherwise, no.
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