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Old 07-11-2017, 16:05   #586
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Re: Brexit discussion

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If that's the case ( correct ) then why did the remainers try to use a supposed catastrophic fall in the case of a Brexit vote? Just another silly scare story.
To be fair they tried to use everything, even the weather...
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Yes, from then on I agree it’s been a shambles, delay after delay. It’s a joke.
And the publics disapproval of the way the Government’s handling of the Brexit negotiations and the confidence that we will get the right deal has also fallen through the floor sadly.

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Old 07-11-2017, 16:51   #588
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This fear mongering claim did not age well...
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"If you vote Leave, the stock exchange will collapse and the value of your pension will be wiped out..."

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Just did Google Search, and the only place that quote comes up in in Daniel Hannan's twitter feed - did anyone actually say it?

https://twitter.com/DanielJHannan/st...78446208864257
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Re: Brexit discussion

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Just did Google Search, and the only place that quote comes up in in Daniel Hannan's twitter feed - did anyone actually say it?

https://twitter.com/DanielJHannan/st...78446208864257
Trust Hugh, who always must try and prove someone wrong by googling to see if it is a fact.

Selective memory springs to mind, yes they did. Pretty big claim by remainers, pre-referendum.

---------- Post added at 16:12 ---------- Previous post was at 16:03 ----------

Oh, what's this....

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Just as well my pension isn't dependent on the stock market, FTSE 250 has fallen 14% in the last 2 days , the worst since 1987. Sterling is plummeting so we can say goodbye to holidays abroad, and a recession is predicted for 2017 which will be nice... Project Fear is proving very accurate so far.
Remind me what the benefits of leaving were? Money for the NHS? No that was a lie. Less immigration, apparently not. A lot who voted leave are scratching their heads today; for once they can't totally blame politicians.
A post from Mr K from June 2016, 4 days after the referendum. Predicting all kinds of stuff to happen, that didn't. I like how he says project fear is accurate so far, when, where ?

There was no recession and the stock market is reaching record levels.
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Old 07-11-2017, 17:34   #590
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There was no recession and the stock market is reaching record levels.
Except Brexit hasn't happened yet and the stock market boom is worldwide. We overestimate our own importance.
Even your favourite tabloid Mick is forecasting a crash, so maybe best to cash in those Trump Organization Inc. shares now
http://www.express.co.uk/finance/cit...l-street-crash
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Economic crash IMMINENT: Fears grow as markets hit high not seen since Black Tuesday
There is a growing sense of foreboding amongst economists who believe the market is poised to repeat what happened during the dotcom bubble and the Wall street crash.

Stock values have reached levels not seen since those two disasters and a correction would throw the world economy - currently seeing an ongoing boom period - into disarray.
These are volatile times, not helped by Brexit.
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Trust Hugh, who always must try and prove someone wrong by googling to see if it is a fact.

Selective memory springs to mind, yes they did. Pretty big claim by remainers, pre-referendum.
The words selective memory can be applied to both sides of the divide Mick but you know that anyway.
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Except Brexit hasn't happened yet and the stock market boom is worldwide. We overestimate our own importance.
Even your favourite tabloid Mick is forecasting a crash, so maybe best to cash in those Trump Organization Inc. shares now
http://www.express.co.uk/finance/cit...l-street-crash

These are volatile times, not helped by Brexit.
The process of Brexit is causing uncertainty but not brexit itself, I refute that claim totally and I've told you, I don't read or have a favourite tabloid or any shares in Trump businesses, so enough of the silly remarks.

And It's a bit late in the day to say 'Brexit' has not happened yet. Especially when you said, recession is predicted in 2017. The quote by you, is there for all to see. There was no recession and the pound recovered somewhat.
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The process of Brexit is causing uncertainty but not brexit itself, I refute that claim totally and I've told you, I don't read or have a favourite tabloid or any shares in Trump businesses, so enough of the silly remarks.

And It's a bit late in the day to say 'Brexit' has not happened yet. Especially when you said, recession is predicted in 2017. The quote by you, is there for all to see. There was no recession and the pound recovered somewhat.
Mick old chap, get real, the pound has fallen 12% against the Euro since the Brexit vote.
Don't really see much recovery here...
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?fr...to=EUR&view=2Y
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Mick old chap, get real, the pound has fallen 12% against the Euro since the Brexit vote.
Don't really see much recovery here...
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?fr...to=EUR&view=2Y
A surefire stimulus to the UK economy. Everybody agreed the pound was overvalued. Yet another post adhering firmly to Sturgeon's Law.
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Mick old chap, get real, the pound has fallen 12% against the Euro since the Brexit vote.
Don't really see much recovery here...
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?fr...to=EUR&view=2Y
Still doing your best to muddy the waters.

I’m on about the U.S Dollar vs £, the £ has recovered somewhat, I care very little about the Euro, given it is a EU created currency. The Euro is a failure as far as I’m concerned and part of the failed EU project.

Go read http://www.nber.org/feldstein/fa121311.html : ‘The Failure of the Euro.’
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Still doing your best to muddy the waters.
No, like Hugh, just doing my best to give you some facts Mick. The fact is the EU is doing very well compared to the UK.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a8028891.html
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No, like Hugh, just doing my best to give you some facts Mick. The fact is the EU is doing very well compared to the UK.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a8028891.html
Misleading more like.

The EU is not doing so well at all, thanks to huge youth unemployment, 43% in Greece, in Spain it is 38% in the U.K. it’s only 11%.
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Re: Brexit discussion

Here's the two biggest hits to my pocket recently:

1) car insurance £6 a month up
2) virgin media £3.50 a month up

neither are caused by Brexit, maybe we have tunnel vision
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Just did Google Search, and the only place that quote comes up in in Daniel Hannan's twitter feed - did anyone actually say it?

https://twitter.com/DanielJHannan/st...78446208864257
More fake news rumbled by Hugh. Great work, if only everyone could use Google like you.
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More fake news rumbled by Hugh. Great work, if only everyone could use Google like you.
It wasn’t fake, the claim was made by remainers, even by one of your buddies, as I quoted. Open your eyes!
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