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Old 12-11-2017, 10:39   #691
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Re: Brexit discussion

Those who wish to see the referendum result overturned need to consider that, if it happens, the game has changed. How long do they think it will be before something they believe sincerely in and achieve through entirely legal and democratic means gets overturned by those who refuse to accept the result. Be under no illusions, it's a very slippery slope.
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Old 12-11-2017, 10:43   #692
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Those who wish to see the referendum result overturned need to consider that, if it happens, the game has changed. How long do they think it will be before something they believe sincerely in and achieve through entirely legal and democratic means gets overturned by those who refuse to accept the result. Be under no illusions, it's a very slippery slope.
I don't think it is going to be overturned but if it were to be it would have to be done via democratic means as well.
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We wouldn't need to have to keep having elections if people didn't change their minds. The main problem with Brexit is we still don't really know what it means. We don't know whether we'll get a hard, soft or no deal. Doesn't seem wrong to me to let the electorate have the final say once a deal is known. Brexiters shouldn't fear that if they feel they still have public support.
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Re: Brexit discussion

Which people have changed their minds? Brexit was a referendum not an election.

As regards elections please name one that was called because people changed their minds.
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Which people have changed their minds? Brexit was a referendum not an election.

As regards elections please name one that was called because people changed their minds.
Well govts wouldn't change if people didn't vote differently at each election.
We don't know the Brexit deal on offer. If its great, even I would vote for it. ( and then wake up ! )
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Well govts wouldn't change if people didn't vote differently at each election.
We don't know the Brexit deal on offer. If its great, even I would vote for it. ( and then wake up ! )
Elections happen because governments are only in power for a limited time. If they are re-elected or not depends as much on what the opposition offers to bribe the electorate and the promises made by the different partys.

As politicians have a habit of misleading the electorate...

No matter what the Brexit deal is you won't be voting on it anyway so that comment is immaterial. We will get the best deal the government can negotiate or non at all if it proves impossible to reach an agreement. Wake up, get over it and stop wingeing about the referendum result.
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As politicians have a habit of misleading the electorate...
You're not wrong there !

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You're not wrong there !

Well this is one man who wants that pledge paid in full.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/h...hief-vqhqmtz7j
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Well this is one man who wants that pledge paid in full.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/h...hief-vqhqmtz7j
How many times do you have to be told. It was not a pledge but a suggestion.

It's like me saying to you let's go down the brown cow for a drink and you saying no I's prefer the black horse. No pledge anywhere there, just a simple suggestion.
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How many times do you have to be told. It was not a pledge but a suggestion.
So you are quite happy for politicians to say things and then pretend that they never meant it?.
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Politicians do that all the time. The leave campaign although run by politicians of different affiliations were not in power, never will be in power and as such didn't nor will have control of any money saved by brexit.

Any fool should be able to see that.
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Politicians do that all the time. The leave campaign although run by politicians of different affiliations were not in power, never will be in power and as such didn't nor will have control of any money saved by brexit.

Any fool should be able to see that.
Yes politicians do that all the time be it from whatever side of the divide they are on but if one is in power and holds the purse strings and fail to back up their pledges , promises or whatever one wants to call it then they have no excuses when they subsequently get punished at the ballot box.
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Yes politicians do that all the time be it from whatever side of the divide they are on but if one is in power and holds the purse strings and fail to back up their pledges , promises or whatever one wants to call it then they have no excuses when they subsequently get punished at the ballot box.
The leave campaign were not in power. Cameron and his cronies were So the government did not pledge or promise anything about what would happen to the savings of EU membership.

What part of that can you not understand?
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The leave campaign were not in power. Cameron and his cronies were So the government did not pledge or promise anything about what would happen to the savings of EU membership.

What part of that can you not understand?
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Re: Brexit discussion

I do wonder how many times the side of the Red Bus has to come in to this topic?

I mean, it's like, everyone is to believe the remain side never told any porkies or never distorted the truth, to buy more votes.

Which is utter nonsense because they did!

Every time the Red bus issue is brought up, it's very much sanctimonious, one sided BS from some of the Remain side, not all, but some!

Neither campaign holds the moral high ground here. I am prepared to accept this and I have said this every time, even though my side won.
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