16-11-2017, 14:58
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Car Tax Losses
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The number of unlicensed vehicles on the road has tripled since the paper tax disc was abolished, government figures show.
The data, published every two years, shows that the government potentially lost out on £107m from 755,000 unlicensed vehicles last year.
The measure was meant to have saved the Treasury £10m.
Figures from the Department for Transport show that 1.8% of vehicles were unlicensed in 2017 compared with 0.6% on 2013.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42009111
Forgetfulness or evasion?
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16-11-2017, 15:04
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Re: Car Tax Losses
They still send you reminders, you would have to quite disorganised to forget when you need to tax the car.
You can also check here: https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-tax
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16-11-2017, 15:48
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Re: Car Tax Losses
you get a V11 reminder form at the beginning of the month of expiry it's hard to forget
but if you never pass an anpr camera your not going to be on the radar until a manual street search is undertaken so i would imagine that's why people risk it .
given the £572 i have paid this year i can understand why people don't pay
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16-11-2017, 16:10
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Re: Car Tax Losses
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
given the £572 i have paid this year i can understand why people don't pay
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you're obviously producing a lot of greenhouses gases Smurf ! I pay £30, happy to pay
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16-11-2017, 16:27
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Re: Car Tax Losses
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you're obviously producing a lot of greenhouses gases Smurf ! I pay £30, happy to pay
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not really i only travel about 20 miles per week on average ,this tax regime does not take into account miles traveled just because the car has a large engine does not mean it's causing more pollution than a smaller engined car over the course of a year .
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16-11-2017, 16:37
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Re: Car Tax Losses
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
not really i only travel about 20 miles per week on average ,this tax regime does not take into account miles traveled just because the car has a large engine does not mean it's causing more pollution than a smaller engined car over the course of a year .
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Correct and not exactly rocket science is it. You're responsible for far less noxious gas than many a self righteous eco-car driver.
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16-11-2017, 16:40
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Re: Car Tax Losses
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Correct and not exactly rocket science is it. You're responsible for far less noxious gas than many a self righteous eco-car driver.
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Not the eco-drivers who drive the same amount.
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16-11-2017, 17:35
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Re: Car Tax Losses
That's why it really aught to be a surcharge on fuel. If you drive a gas guzzler like petrol's going out of fashion then you'll pay for it. Low mileage in a frugal car and you're quids in. Can't be evaded either unless you're running on moonshine.
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16-11-2017, 18:18
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Re: Car Tax Losses
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That's why it really aught to be a surcharge on fuel. If you drive a gas guzzler like petrol's going out of fashion then you'll pay for it. Low mileage in a frugal car and you're quids in. Can't be evaded either unless you're running on moonshine.
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There already is a surcharge - fuel duty, 58p a litre, plus 20% vat, i.e most of the what you pay goes to the Govt.
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16-11-2017, 18:43
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Re: Car Tax Losses
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Originally Posted by Mr K
There already is a surcharge - fuel duty, 58p a litre, plus 20% vat, i.e most of the what you pay goes to the Govt.
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point. missed.
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16-11-2017, 19:00
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Re: Car Tax Losses
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Not the eco-drivers who drive the same amount.
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I doubt many are as frugal as 20mpw and I didn't say ALL eco-car drivers.
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16-11-2017, 19:04
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Re: Car Tax Losses
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point. missed.
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Never mind maybe you'll find it next time
There is an argument taxes aren't high enough. Given the congested roads, multiple car households, and unnecessary short journeys. The tax should of course been invested in and subsidised public transport, which successive govts. have failed to do, despite promises.
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16-11-2017, 19:04
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Re: Car Tax Losses
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
That's why it really aught to be a surcharge on fuel. If you drive a gas guzzler like petrol's going out of fashion then you'll pay for it. Low mileage in a frugal car and you're quids in. Can't be evaded either unless you're running on moonshine.
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No doubt some folks rather like displaying their eco credentials when in fact they drive everywhere producing all sorts of emissions. It's a bit like those rich celebs who make themselves feel better about the carbon emissions from their supercars, boats and planes that they buy a Prius to use for the PR value.
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16-11-2017, 19:28
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Re: Car Tax Losses
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Originally Posted by Osem
I doubt many are as frugal as 20mpw and I didn't say ALL eco-car drivers.
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I`m not far behind you, my little car has just clocked 20,000 on a 2002 plate
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16-11-2017, 19:44
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Re: Car Tax Losses
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Originally Posted by blackthorn
I`m not far behind you, my little car has just clocked 20,000 on a 2002 plate
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