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Old 28-07-2017, 10:15   #286
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So what's the alternative Den are you going to stand ? We've said before we'd vote for you
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Old 28-07-2017, 10:17   #287
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l won't be standing Mr K as l am too coarse and blunt for some and one needs a more polished member of Cable Forum to come forward with their wide ranging encompassing political plans.
ya called

i don't mind putting my totally unbiased and balanced views forward
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ya called

i don't mind putting my totally unbiased and balanced views forward
You have to be the age of majority first.
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Old 28-07-2017, 12:02   #289
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I see Venezuela is in the news today, it's falling apart, a stark reminder of what the UK would be under a Corbyn led government.
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I see Venezuela is in the news today, it's falling apart, a stark reminder of what the UK would be under a Corbyn led government.
You got that right Mick!
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I see Venezuela is in the news today, it's falling apart, a stark reminder of what the UK would be under a Corbyn led government.
Yep, not that long ago Red Ken was telling us all what a model society that was.

Typically, he seems to have gone a bit quiet about that lately. Can't think why...

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Dianne Abbot proving she's a hypocrite again:

https://order-order.com/2017/07/28/d...ake-may-quote/

How unlike Labour to post fake news...

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Dianne Abbot proving she's a hypocrite again:

https://order-order.com/2017/07/28/d...ake-may-quote/

How unlike Labour to post fake news...
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Old 28-07-2017, 17:13   #292
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How unlike Labour to post fake news...
How unlike you goodself to post anything impartial or that doesn't involve a Corbyn/Abbott story from the same biased sources...

That order-order website is rubbish; I couldn't order anything off it; a commercial disaster for sure....
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Labour's Shadow Justice Minister confirming that Corbyn promised to write off student debts in the run up to the election:

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“Just this morning Jeremy Corbyn has announced that the tuition fees will be abolished straight away from September if there’s a Labour government, and that we will bring back immediately EMA and also that every existing student will have all their debt wiped off. That’s fantastic news, isn’t it guys?”
https://order-order.com/2017/07/25/s...ebt-wiped-off/


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Old 30-07-2017, 12:14   #294
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good video about corbyn

tuition fees sketch

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/834...h-report-video
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I am very happy I'm not alone in feeling so strongly about this and hope this idea catches on and comes to pass

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/413111...tion-promises/
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Old 31-07-2017, 08:20   #296
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I am very happy I'm not alone in feeling so strongly about this and hope this idea catches on and comes to pass

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/413111...tion-promises/
i'd vote for that it's time they were held accountable .
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I am very happy I'm not alone in feeling so strongly about this and hope this idea catches on and comes to pass

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/413111...tion-promises/
That's unworkable though. How do you easily define a promise and when is it ok to break it? People are quite partisan and these things are difficult to define. For example £350 million on the NHS is an 'aspiration'. The Liberal Democrats promised not to raise tuition fees but they didn't actually win the election. What do you then do about changing circumstances which make promises made in good faith untenable?

Even the fact this has been related to Corbyn's tuition fees promise is dodgy. The manifesto doesn't actually promise existing students will get their debt wiped out and that promise seems to be a mixture of a vague 'we'll see what we can do' answer from Corbyn to the NME and other Labour politicians promising it. Would it still count as illegal in that case?

It just seems to stem from an unhealthy desire people have to criminalise their political opponents. Obviously I do not think people should lie to win elections but with the definition of what counts as a lie so disputed it seems a bad idea to make it illegal. Everyone will just be setting the police on each other.
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I am very happy I'm not alone in feeling so strongly about this and hope this idea catches on and comes to pass

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/413111...tion-promises/
Good grief two things from the red top that l agree with this morning.

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i'd vote for that it's time they were held accountable .
Not often l agree with you either.
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If you imprisoned MP's (or prospective MP's) or other officials for "breaking promises" you'd need an awful lot of prisons and electioneering would be really dull.

"If elected we promise (within certain degrees of agreed certainty) to do this (unless those degrees of uncertainty are exceeded wherein any promise made will be null and void). We will also (provided the policies aforementioned are implemented within designated time frameworks. (No promises made here should be taken as a "promise" other than that defined by the Election Parliamentary Promise Act, the Political Weaselling Redaction Act and any similar relevant legislation.)"
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If you imprisoned MP's (or prospective MP's) or other officials for "breaking promises" you'd need an awful lot of prisons and electioneering would be really dull.

"If elected we promise (within certain degrees of agreed certainty) to do this (unless those degrees of uncertainty are exceeded wherein any promise made will be null and void). We will also (provided the policies aforementioned are implemented within designated time frameworks. (No promises made here should be taken as a "promise" other than that defined by the Election Parliamentary Promise Act, the Political Weaselling Redaction Act and any similar relevant legislation.)"
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