Nuclear project in disarray as two pull out making new plants

[mertle]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-17546420

RWE, NPOWER and E.ON put halt on new power plant plans.

Not good news to our energy solutions. We all better start getting candles as panick nature to news.

Serioulsy this could setback our energy needs. I wonder the economic climate makes investment into major expensive projects not viable.

There has been a setback to the government's plan to attract investment in new nuclear power stations.
That is after RWE Npower and E.On announced they will not develop new nuclear power projects in the UK.
The two were planning to invest in new plants in Anglesey and Oldbury, near Bristol, under a joint venture called Horizon Nuclear Power.

Malcolm Grimston, an associate fellow at the Chatham House think tank, said: "It's a big deal that they are pulling out. If you look at the utilities in Europe then they are two of the biggest. There aren't that many huge players out there who could take over.

FYI, RWE Npower is one company, not two separate companies.

And from your link

RWE has also been hit by costs associated with decommissioning nuclear power plants in Germany.

Last May Germany decided to close down its nuclear power stations by 2022, following the disaster at Japan's Fukushima nuclear facility

[mertle]

Originally Posted by Hugh

FYI, RWE Npower is one company, not two separate companies.

And from your link

thanks thought it was 3 error by the beeb never knew they all part same company.

Its toss up on the situation we cant go coal mass, worry nuclear power dangers of what happened in japan. renewables likely not enough. Forgot biomass plants there could issues with crops too.

So we could be in serious power shortages down the road.

[Tim Deegan]

Wasn't there talk a few years ago about incinerating domestic waste, and generating electricity from the incineration process?

I'm sure this is being done in some places. It would solve the land fill problems.

Originally Posted by mertle

thanks thought it was 3 error by the beeb never knew they all part same company.

Its toss up on the situation we cant go coal mass, worry nuclear power dangers of what happened in japan. renewables likely not enough. Forgot biomass plants there could issues with crops too.

So we could be in serious power shortages down the road.

tbf, you put the comma in between RWE and Npower, the BBC didn't....

[mertle]

Originally Posted by Hugh

tbf, you put the comma in between RWE and Npower, the BBC didn't....

sorry comas can be easily missed so beeb not wrong.

Saying that if like the bloke said big hitter companies pull out we could be struggling to replace the old plants.

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

Wasn't there talk a few years ago about incinerating domestic waste, and generating electricity from the incineration process?

I'm sure this is being done in some places. It would solve the land fill problems.

this what you mean

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste-to-energy

If so Co2 emission is issue. Saying that waste heat could go into pipes keep towns warm.

[chris9991]

I just hope we don't end up having to kowtow to the Russians in the years to come

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by mertle

sorry comas can be easily missed so beeb not wrong.

Saying that if like the bloke said big hitter companies pull out we could be struggling to replace the old plants.

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this what you mean

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste-to-energy

If so Co2 emission is issue. Saying that waste heat could go into pipes keep towns warm.

Unless they put the filters on the chimneys like they do with coal power stations.

[devilincarnate]

Cant we just have the film "Threads" happening

Wasn't that about the build up to, and the aftermath of, a nuclear war, and the effects on Sheffield (I thought it was an urban improvement programme, myself....).

[Matth]

Nuclear is good for baseline load, gas is good for demand load, and wind/solar are good for producing when they feel like it. Current renewable energy technology is just not up to the job.

The Fukushima accident is barely relevant, other than to places where every backup is likely to get wiped out by quake/Tsunami - though it would be a good basic principle for new designs to be able to manage a safe emergency shutdown using only what is within the containment building.

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Matth

Nuclear is good for baseline load, gas is good for demand load, and wind/solar are good for producing when they feel like it. Current renewable energy technology is just not up to the job.

The Fukushima accident is barely relevant, other than to places where every backup is likely to get wiped out by quake/Tsunami - though it would be a good basic principle for new designs to be able to manage a safe emergency shutdown using only what is within the containment building.

Apparently there are many large faults under Europe and the UK that could trigger massive earthquakes and tsunamis just as big as the one in Japan. I can't remember which channel it was on, but I was watching a program about it a while ago on one of the documentary channels. So the same thing could happen here to our nuclear power stations.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

Apparently there are many large faults under Europe and the UK that could trigger massive earthquakes and tsunamis just as big as the one in Japan. I can't remember which channel it was on, but I was watching a program about it a while ago on one of the documentary channels. So the same thing could happen here to our nuclear power stations.

Anyone remember there ever being an earthquake big enough to trigger a tidal way here in the UK ???

Here's a hint http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._British_Isles

http://194.66.252.141/website/gdi/vi...Title=GeoIndex

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Anyone remember there ever being an earthquake big enough to trigger a tidal way here in the UK ???

Here's a hint http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._British_Isles

http://194.66.252.141/website/gdi/vi...Title=GeoIndex

Aparrently there is geological evidence of massive earthquakes throughout Europe.

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

Aparrently there is geological evidence of massive earthquakes throughout Europe.

not really a reason not to build them though is it