Will Scotland Leave the UK?

[Osem]

Blimey they're banging on about the Battle of Britain now. Still I suppose that's what desperate folks do when they have no coherent or logical argument to present. Maybe the SNP's dubious financial projections could be enhanced by taxing all that irrational bitterness some folks seem consumed by.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Osem

Maybe the SNP's dubious financial projections could be enhanced by taxing all that irrational bitterness some folks seem consumed by.

If they did that then they would be able to leave the oil where it is and buy gold plated jet packs for everyone.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Derek

If they did that then they would be able to leave the oil where it is and buy gold plated jet packs for everyone.

Bugger!!! Have I just got Salmond off the fiscal hook then??!!

[tweetiepooh]

Seems that the more people tell the Scots how much worse they will be with a "yes" vote the more inclined people are to vote "yes". Not ignorance but simply not liking to be told what to vote or else.

There is a strong contrarian streak in Scotland to be sure, however there is also a strong tendency to mind one's wallet. Talk is cheap, a tax bill is not. And every opinion poll ever taken is, ultimately, just talk.

Let us see what happens in September when the facts have fully come home to roost. I still predict No will win, and not narrowly, either.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

Seems that the more people tell the Scots how much worse they will be with a "yes" vote the more inclined people are to vote "yes". Not ignorance but simply not liking to be told what to vote or else.

It's lunacy. The SNP are promising the moon on a stick and when their plans fall apart under the slightest scrutiny they play the victim card and blame the big bad Tories for everything.

And some people fall for it.

Originally Posted by Jimi

You have clearly missed the rubbish I've had tae put up with,including from yourself,deal with it.!!!

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Just read the gut wrenching story from The Daily Fail which had a headline...The Lucky Dip lottery ticket that could wreck the Union.

What this stupid idiotic article said about the Weirs lottery win and their donation towards the SNP was nothing other than a damned disgrace.
Short memories,because how many Tory toffs have donated tae that mob over the years,nae wonder its losing thousands of readers daily.

Difference being JIMI is anything i posted regarding your views are about you. Little Englanders is insulting all of us down here. I wouldn't stoop so low as to name call all of the people in Scotland out of repect for our Scots friends on this forum. It's clear to see why you follow Salmond and his cronies.

Originally Posted by Derek

It's lunacy. The SNP are promising the moon on a stick and when their plans fall apart under the slightest scrutiny they play the victim card and blame the big bad Tories for everything.

And some people fall for it.

Thing is Salmond doesn't care. If they win Independence and sign that document his place in history is secure.

[Jimi]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

Seems that the more people tell the Scots how much worse they will be with a "yes" vote the more inclined people are to vote "yes". Not ignorance but simply not liking to be told what to vote or else.

I don't believe it,a sensible post at last,(apart from Mr. Angry's tae)
When truth becomes a lie then folk can see right through it,we in Scotland know who tells the truth and it sure ain't BT.

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Originally Posted by Chris

There is a strong contrarian streak in Scotland to be sure, however there is also a strong tendency to mind one's wallet. Talk is cheap, a tax bill is not. And every opinion poll ever taken is, ultimately, just talk.

Let us see what happens in September when the facts have fully come home to roost. I still predict No will win, and not narrowly, either.

I predict a massacre,65/35 in favour of us winning it by a landslide.

[gjbarclay]

I'm not sure what Jimi means when he asked Mr Angry [quote] "have [you] ever read "The Battle of Britain," if so,you'd be forgiven for thinking England won it. Before the Little Englander brigade get on their high horses again,go read it."

There are dozens of books about the Battle of Britain, each with their own take. In my experience most spend some time talking about where the 'British' pilots came from (for example in Stephen Bungay's brilliant 'Most dangerous Enemy') which goes into some detail about the British, Australian, New Zealand, South African, Canadian pilots (from the Empire) and the Polish (the largest non-British contingent), Czech, French, Bulgarian, Belgian, and USA (volunteers before America entered the war). The Wikipedia article on the Battle of Britain makes the same points as does the RAF page on the Battle, which scrupulously uses UK/Britain throughout.

The Battle was, for reasons relating to proximity to the continent, largely fought in southern and midland England and the stock images are, necessarily, of Biggin Hill etc. The RAF stationed air defence squadrons all over the UK, even at the height of the Battle, and indeed moved squadrons around all parts of the UK to rest squadrons in the north and west of England and Scotland, where the level of Luftwaffe activity was much lower (even in NE Scotland, which was close to Luftwaffe bases in Norway).

So, no evidence that [quote] "you'd be forgiven for thinking England won it."

[Osem]

Jimi and his ilk are well used to confusing puerile nonsense with reasoned argument - it's all they have and it's the best possible evidence of the paucity of their case.

Perhaps Jimi will now appear with some tangible evidence to support his claims. I mean he's read the 'Battle of Britain' book so it must be true and I'm sure he'll be able to quote all those references to English pilots winning the battle...

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Originally Posted by Damien

Thing is Salmond doesn't care. If they win Independence and sign that document his place in history is secure.

If it happens his place in history will be about as positive as Gordon Brown's.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Jimi

I don't believe it,a sensible post at last,(apart from Mr. Angry's tae)
When truth becomes a lie then folk can see right through it,we in Scotland know who tells the truth and it sure ain't BT.

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I predict a massacre,65/35 in favour of us winning it by a landslide.

That post wasn't sensible, it was a fact. People just don't like to be told what to do and usually do the opposite. It have nothing at all todo with truth. Then again you believe anything Salmond and the SNP tell you.

Landslide victory, hahaha.

I've been away a few days but can clearly see nothing changes round here. A small minority still spouting nonsense and bringing in historical events to try and make a point. Even though they bear no relation to the subject.

I better stop or I'll get accused of bullying

[TheDaddy]

I found the last two posts in this thread amusing

Funny, Jimi doesn't seem to have a problem writing TO instead of TAE over on that forum.

[Mr Pharmacist]

Ooh err, get him - "I've been called all sorts of names on Cable Forum,even the bloody idiotic Scots on the forum are a joke,I give as good as I get on there and for that I'm given bad rep every day,thing is,come September 19 the,im gonna go on there are give them [Mod Edit - asterisked out word removed] laldy.
It may take you a wee while to read the posts but trust me,I'll be back." The bit highlighted looks like jimi has finally accepted what he's like.