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Old 25-08-2009, 10:34   #16
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Interesting and quite sad that you say it was city boys in your village, I recognised or knew nearly everyone participating in my old towns, which's only up the road from you incidentally, it was handy as it meant I could moan at them for delaying me when I next saw them.
It's all changed even before the ban the local hunt trails ceased to exist though it was a fantastic course on the Chilterns... even in the smaller villages too many houses became 2nd homes... My partners lived in this house all their life and in that time the size of this village alone has multiplied by a factor of 4..
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That surprises me. I though foxes only killed what they could eat.
Kill what they can carry of more like, chances are foxy would have been back to bury the rest some where else given the chance.

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It's all changed even before the ban the local hunt trails ceased to exist though it was a fantastic course on the Chilterns... even in the smaller villages too many houses became 2nd homes... My partners lived in this house all their life and in that time the size of this village alone has multiplied by a factor of 4..
That's progress for you
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Old 25-08-2009, 10:36   #18
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That surprises me. I though foxes only killed what they could eat.

Maybe the fox was framed. Did you interview the 2 surviving chickens? They could have been the Rose and Fred West of the poultry world but didn't have the resources to build a patio.
More than likely to be stray dogs.....
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That sounds like a great sport. On the home leg the fox gets hunted and on the return leg Chinless Inbred-Tory gets hunted by a load of foxes. It would be unfair to expect foxes to control dogs so they should be armed with sub machine-guns to level things up.
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Sounds like a very quick death to me that does.

Would you rather they be shot from distance and die slowly in some hedge?



So your happy with dog fighting?

Look its kind of a sport but at the end of the day foxes are vermin a pest who eats lambs, chickens etc and spread diseases . They need controlling in some way hey will breed and before you know it we are over run in the city and countryside with theses pests.

Many years ago I looked after 20 chickens when I was a butcher I had a thing for theses chickens as you do when you feed an animal daily. One day I opened the hatch everyone bar two had the head ripped of just there bodies left!! Mr fox did not have the decency to eat the chickens he just mindlessly killed them for fun!!! This upset me ever since I have been in favour of fox control.

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Foxes don't "mindlessly" kill for fun, True that faced with a handy, ready meal they will take advantage & if they were able they would come back for the rest. Usually they don't get the opportunity to return to cash in on that advantage. I presume these Chickens were for slaughter anyway, so what's the difference? Oh yes, Foxy didn't pay for them.
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Old 25-08-2009, 10:44   #21
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More than likely to be stray dogs.....
Well the butchers that I worked at which was bang in the middle of the countryside in a village had a fox problem hence why they fox hunt a lot there.

Which is why I’m 100% confident it was a fox. It’s a know fact they kill for fun!
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Simple question, did you see the animal make the attack?? If not then you can't be 100%

Most 'fox' attacks are stray dogs and with the safeguards put in place to prevent foxes only a larger dog can normally get past them..

I'm not saying that some areas don't have a problem with foxes but I can assure you that only 10% of the hunts are in these areas
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting

Many years ago we lost all 5 of our pet chickens to the fox. As children we were terribly upset and the fact that 4 of the 5 had been killed but left behind added insult to injury. Of course we decided to bury the remaining 4 nearby only to find a day or two later that the fox had exhumed them all! We'd unwittingly done the fox's job for him!! As has been said by others here, left to their devices, foxes will kill in numbers and then return repeatedly to the scene in order to retrieve as many carcasses as they can. That's what survival in the wild is all about.

Anyway, whatever happens about this issue in Westminster, all I hope is that it doesn't take up as much precious parliamentary time as it did under Bliar's 'government' and still result in a total shambles.
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Foxes don't "mindlessly" kill for fun, True that faced with a handy, ready meal they will take advantage & if they were able they would come back for the rest. Usually they don't get the opportunity to return to cash in on that advantage. I presume these Chickens were for slaughter anyway, so what's the difference? Oh yes, Foxy didn't pay for them.
No the chickens where for free range eggs!
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Interesting that you defend poor little foxy woxy whilst being quite happy to see your fellow man die. I agree with you though it's not sport, it's pest control and I'll sign up to anything the gets rid of as many of them as possible as quickly as possible.
i hope that someday you will have a pack of hounds chewing at your nuts and then come back to the forum and express your opinion.
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i hope that someday you will have a pack of hounds chewing at your nuts and then come back to the forum and express your opinion.
Thats a tad harsh.

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i hope that someday you will have a pack of hounds chewing at your nuts and then come back to the forum and express your opinion.
My little Timber (all 40Kg of him) likes nuts!!!

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Well the butchers that I worked at which was bang in the middle of the countryside in a village had a fox problem hence why they fox hunt a lot there.

Which is why I’m 100% confident it was a fox. It’s a know fact they kill for fun!
It might very well be a 'know fact' but it is also completely wrong. The fox like all predators acts purely on instinct-in the wild if a fox were to get close to a flock of birds, it might manage to kill one or two but the rest would scatter to safety. As the fox can't be sure when the next meal will be coming, its instinct is to kill more than it needs to stock up.

You can imagine that in a confined space with a lot of trapped, frightened birds all flapping about the fox gets confused, attacks and kills everything that is moving, takes what it can and tries to return later for the rest-although it doesn't normally get the chance before the owner discovers what has happened.

The fox certainly isn't killing for fun-that seems to be something exclusive to humans-although it sure doesn't help the owner much, his chickens are just as dead whatever the fox's motive.
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It might very well be a 'know fact' but it is also completely wrong. The fox like all predators acts purely on instinct-in the wild if a fox were to get close to a flock of birds, it might manage to kill one or two but the rest would scatter to safety. As the fox can't be sure when the next meal will be coming, its instinct is to kill more than it needs to stock up.

You can imagine that in a confined space with a lot of trapped, frightened birds all flapping about the fox gets confused, attacks and kills everything that is moving, takes what it can and tries to return later for the rest-although it doesn't normally get the chance before the owner discovers what has happened.

The fox certainly isn't killing for fun-that seems to be something exclusive to humans-although it sure doesn't help the owner much, his chickens are just as dead whatever the fox's motive.
I will take that on board, fair point.
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My little Timber (all 40Kg of him) likes nuts!!!

I hope he loves his owner more than some dogs do:

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