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Old 01-08-2017, 23:25   #1951
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

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Meh. Is it any worse than any of the other stuff?
It may not be any worse but it includes "Russia" and "cover-up" which is already a very toxic area.
I'm hoping that the Trump Presidency is past its worst and that Kelly will improve governance.
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Old 01-08-2017, 23:30   #1952
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If I was a Trump fan I would probably try and change the topic to Venezuela or Hillary Clinton now.
What you have highlighted is very damning of Trump.
Why would anyone native to this country be a "fan" of the leader of another country?

What is the obsession with some people in Britain about Trump?
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What is the obsession with some people in Britain about Trump?
He's the leader of the most powerful country in the world.
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Old 02-08-2017, 00:01   #1954
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If I was a Trump fan I would probably try and change the topic to Venezuela or Hillary Clinton now.
What you have highlighted is very damning of Trump.
But not really.

Or just ignore it because there is no Russian collusion for the 131424353535674636353646464th time. Btw, we already have a Venezuelan topic.

Btw 2, US has a new FBI Director, Christopher Wray. (For ten years, not days, hopefully). Has been confirmed by the US Senate.
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Old 02-08-2017, 07:39   #1955
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He's the leader of the most powerful country in the world.
Granted that but he is idiot nevertheless but Americans like us did not have the greatest electoral choice to choose from sadly.
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Who cares?

Over here we have cabinet "reshuffles" were 6,7,8 , 10 ministers can be sacked at once!
I believe they have those in the US as well. I think the issue here is that some posts have been filled multiple times now.

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a bit the labour party merry go round of a few months back
Difference being they weren't in power.

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But not really.

Or just ignore it because there is no Russian collusion for the 131424353535674636353646464th time. Btw, we already have a Venezuelan topic.
The fact they have not launched impeachment proceedings yet does not mean that they won't. We have not seen the full evidence. Impeaching a president is not something the US Authorities do lightly, nor should they. They need evidence, especially as if any president is impeached, there may well be further legal action after the impeachment, and possible criminal charges whether against the President or members of the administration.

I don't know if there was collusion. I suspect there was. There was certainly communication between Trump's team and Russians that the intelligence agencies maintain have links with the Russian government, the team themselves have admitted as much if the media is correct.

Assuming the communications were entirely legitimate, I feel the best way Trump can handle it is to do something he is unlikely to have done before. Be totally open and honest about it. That will certainly wrong foot the democrats and may even show up any conspiracy by them to invent collusion where it didn't exist.

Hell, if he did that, and it worked, he may well come out of it looking like a hero, and would probably have secured his chance to win the next election.
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I believe they have those in the US as well. I think the issue here is that some posts have been filled multiple times now.

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Difference being they weren't in power.

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The fact they have not launched impeachment proceedings yet does not mean that they won't. We have not seen the full evidence. Impeaching a president is not something the US Authorities do lightly, nor should they. They need evidence, especially as if any president is impeached, there may well be further legal action after the impeachment, and possible criminal charges whether against the President or members of the administration.

I don't know if there was collusion. I suspect there was. There was certainly communication between Trump's team and Russians that the intelligence agencies maintain have links with the Russian government, the team themselves have admitted as much if the media is correct.

Assuming the communications were entirely legitimate, I feel the best way Trump can handle it is to do something he is unlikely to have done before. Be totally open and honest about it. That will certainly wrong foot the democrats and may even show up any conspiracy by them to invent collusion where it didn't exist.

Hell, if he did that, and it worked, he may well come out of it looking like a hero, and would probably have secured his chance to win the next election.
Yes, I know how impeachment proceedings work. It's a political process rather than a 'criminal' process. History could just repeat itself and Trump resigns, Pence is sworn in as 46th President and pardons Trump if any indictments are levied against him.

But we are way off, Trump has his base Republican supporters who could turn against Republican Senators, if they vote to impeach him.

Impeachment Articles have been raised in the House of Representatives, by two Democrats. But Trump has to lose support from his own party for those articles to pass and then it requires a further vote in the Senate. The whole process is meant to be complex and hard to pass, it is not for simply not liking a sitting President, or because people feel the wrong person was elected.
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

Worth pointing out that JK Rowling has withdrawn her criticism of Trump for not shaking hands with a disabled child after she was advised he did.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/jk-rowli...y-white-house/
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Worth pointing out that JK Rowling has withdrawn her criticism of Trump for not shaking hands with a disabled child after she was advised he did.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/jk-rowli...y-white-house/
Crucially, she 'forgot' to apologise to President Trump.
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Impeachment Articles have been raised in the House of Representatives, by two Democrats. But Trump has to lose support from his own party for those articles to pass and then it requires a further vote in the Senate. The whole process is meant to be complex and hard to pass, it is not for simply not liking a sitting President, or because people feel the wrong person was elected.
The reasons for Trump potentially being impeached would not be to do with people disliking the President but for solid evidence of Russian collusion during the election and subsequent cover-up being found. So, he'll be just fine.
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Crucially, she 'forgot' to apologise to President Trump.
but she's a woman aren't they always right
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Crucially, she 'forgot' to apologise to President Trump.
Yes, bit of a poor sport there but I don't think he likes giving or accepting apologies either.
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Yes, bit of a poor sport there but I don't think he likes giving or accepting apologies either.
But still, she propagated a malicious falsehood. A public apology is appropriate imo.
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Crucially, she 'forgot' to apologise to President Trump.
Hell has a better chance of freezing over before she ever would.

She stands on a platform preaching to the world what everyone else should do, you know, like take in more refugees etc etc. Rumour has it, in all her UK mansions she has 18 spare bedrooms. I don't think she has took any in.

Hence the following Petition: https://www.change.org/p/j-k-rowling...spare-bedrooms

Gary Lineker is another who preaches on with himself too.
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