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Old 06-01-2017, 14:35   #1066
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Re: The future for linear TV channels

15 mins of ads per hour! There would be a lot more if we went the US model. Just look at the pauses in programming were we don't see ad's but those across the pond will likely do so. And probably already is, look at length of programme when watching on-demand and think the rest of the hour slot we use would be ads.

I'd like to see advertising limited to 10 mins at most per hour with a minimum period of programme between ad breaks and a max duration of any ad break.
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Old 06-01-2017, 14:56   #1067
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15 mins of ads per hour! There would be a lot more if we went the US model. Just look at the pauses in programming were we don't see ad's but those across the pond will likely do so. And probably already is, look at length of programme when watching on-demand and think the rest of the hour slot we use would be ads.

I'd like to see advertising limited to 10 mins at most per hour with a minimum period of programme between ad breaks and a max duration of any ad break.

The fact that the US advertise differently makes no difference to US shows shown in the UK as both countries use a 1 hour programme grid. A US '1 hour' show runs for typically 42 minutes. The remaining 18 minutes are filled with adds and show promos, in either the US or UK.
I guess a UK add funded main channel shows run for typically 48 to 50 minutes?
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Old 06-01-2017, 15:09   #1068
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The fact that the US advertise differently makes no difference to US shows shown in the UK as both countries use a 1 hour programme grid. A US '1 hour' show runs for typically 42 minutes. The remaining 18 minutes are filled with adds and show promos, in either the US or UK.
I guess a UK add funded main channel shows run for typically 48 to 50 minutes?
Out of curiosity a few years ago I timed the shows on ITV, generally there were three commercial breaks at about 20 minute intervals and each slot ran 3m20s so the actual show ran 50 minutes. I don't suppose it's changed that much.
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15 mins of ads per hour! There would be a lot more if we went the US model. Just look at the pauses in programming were we don't see ad's but those across the pond will likely do so. And probably already is, look at length of programme when watching on-demand and think the rest of the hour slot we use would be ads.

I'd like to see advertising limited to 10 mins at most per hour with a minimum period of programme between ad breaks and a max duration of any ad break.
There is a average of 6 ad breaks per hour on US tv however the US ad breaks are shorter than the uk for example a average uk ad break is 3 minutes and you get 3 per hour, a USA tv ad break is 90 seconds you get 6 per hour this still equals the same ammount of ad time as UK.
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Old 06-01-2017, 18:31   #1070
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There is a average of 6 ad breaks per hour on US tv however the US ad breaks are shorter than the uk for example a average uk ad break is 3 minutes and you get 3 per hour, a USA tv ad break is 90 seconds you get 6 per hour this still equals the same ammount of ad time as UK.
Then why is it that US TV programmes which have an hour slot tend to only be 41-43 minutes long when the ads are removed?

Having visited quite a few States in the last few years, I can definitely state the ads take up more than 9 minutes per hour.
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Old 06-01-2017, 19:40   #1071
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In the 80s/90s I'd bootleg gigs, trade music tapes & VHS movies. In the 90s/00s I downloaded music and tv/films. Now I can stream what I want when I want it, on Spotify, Amazon, Netflix and Virgin/Sky catchup (when it works!). I rarely watch linear TV but then I never really did, it's just easier (legal) to do it now.

There's still a place for linear TV, live sports, news etc, but I find myself time shifting programmes more often than not.
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Old 06-01-2017, 20:03   #1072
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Re: The future for linear TV channels

That's the reason why we record a lot of shows, we just skip past the ads.
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Old 06-01-2017, 20:44   #1073
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Then why is it that US TV programmes which have an hour slot tend to only be 41-43 minutes long when the ads are removed?

Having visited quite a few States in the last few years, I can definitely state the ads take up more than 9 minutes per hour.
Having watched tv via online ustv providers the ads work out about the same as uk tv when totalled up, not saying all the time but on average it does.
However ABC and FOX ads are certainly longer, but the rest seem to average about the same as UK when totted up.
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Old 13-01-2017, 09:07   #1074
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Re: The future for linear TV channels

http://advanced-television.com/2017/...the-beginning/

What this says to me is that the global operators such as Netflix and Amazon will suck up a lot of the available content, leaving the terrestrial channels with little but their own content and 'well worn' older material and the less populat dregs of new material to offer their viewers.

Sadly, this points to more exclusivity of much wanted content, meaning we will still have to take out multiple subscriptions to view the programmes we want to see.

The article also implies to me that the terrestrials are going to have to up their game considerably in order to survive. I think the BBC and Channel 4 are well placed to take on this challenge. Not quite sure how ITV will fare, but it does seem to be heading in the right direction now.

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Old 13-01-2017, 10:45   #1075
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Re: The future for linear TV channels

When watching recorded US shows the ad breaks tend to be around 5 mins, sometimes longer, occasionally on "dead of night" showings much shorter, some times no ad at all just fade out, programme screen, fade out, programme screen, fade out programme returns. That 5 mins may contain previews but that's just another sort of ad really.

So the programme can fit into 50 min slots and since the topic is loss of linear programming because everyone streams or watches the recording not working on a 60 min grid is fine.
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Old 13-01-2017, 10:50   #1076
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Re: The future for linear TV channels

Isn't it especially in the case of the BBC their own content what people are mainly interested in anyway ?

The bulk of the BBC's spend goes on original content.

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Isn't it especially in the case of the BBC their own content want people are mainly interested in anyway ?

The bulk of the BBC's spend goes on original content anyway.
It does, which is why I think that the BBC is best placed of all the terrestrials to succeed in the new media world.

The link below shows how the BBC is moving forward with its on demand strategy. They do appear to be wanting to actively encourage people to move from conventional linear channel viewing to streaming.

Incidentally, I am now convinced that Channel 5 is in danger of disappearing completely in this new world.

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201701124...#axzz4VdLi99a2
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Re: The future for linear TV channels

OB why just Netflix and Amazon there are other huge players ?
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OB why just Netflix and Amazon there are other huge players ?
I gave Netflix and Amazon as examples, MM. They are certainly the main players with global clout in the UK for the time being, but obviously things may change over time. I fully expect HBO to make its presence felt in the UK before much longer.
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Incidentally, I am now convinced that Channel 5 is in danger of disappearing completely in this new world.
Here's hoping!
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