Ryanair calls for two-drink limit at airports

This attitude of banning for the majority because of the abuse of a tiny minority just never gets old does it and it can be done on just any abuse and the majority can then bask in the warm glow of the new security from abuse that they now have. The laws are already there to deal with the few idiots that cannot limit themselves to moderation and should be applied and maybe the bigger question is why those laws are not used when it's appropriate. Personally anytime ryan air calls for anything i instinctively oppose it as they are always only thinking of how they can seperate more money from their customers and very rarely does it have anything to do with customers safety or well being

[blackthorn]

You`re not allowed to drink your own drink on a plane so I`ve never understood why they sell the little bottles of minatures in dutyfree. It can`t be for any other reason than to drink on a plane.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by blackthorn

You`re not allowed to drink your own drink on a plane so I`ve never understood why they sell the little bottles of minatures in dutyfree. It can`t be for any other reason than to drink on a plane.

Money , money , money blackthorn.

[Taf]

Smoking was banned from aircraft, now it's the turn of alcohol.

Just as smoking was banned from buses, trains, hospitals, schools, colleges, shops, parks, cinemas, theatres, pubs and some beaches, you can expect alcohol to be banned from all public places and forms of transport at some point.

Except for pubs.. but they are still closing down at a high rate, partly due to the smoking ban.

Originally Posted by Taf

Smoking was banned from aircraft, now it's the turn of alcohol.

The thing is smoking has a negative impact on others in a way that alcohol, drunk in moderation, doesn't. You can't escape someone else's smoke on an airplane but if someone in front of you is drinking it doesn't harm you at all.

[mrmistoffelees]

Ah yes, the old 'Let's ban something due to the behaviour of an idiotic few'

There's a few issues on this...

Airports will never go for it due to the exorbitant profit they make on selling alcoholic drinks

People have been actively been stopped boarding trains due to alcohol consumption the same can and should be done on flights.

I hardly every drink, but one of my pleasures is sitting with a cold beer, or a glass of wine before boarding a flight/connecting flight

As with so many things, this is about personal responsibility and accountability.

A blanket ban is not required.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Airports will never go for it due to the exorbitant profit they make on selling alcoholic drinks



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Spot on Mr M.

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

People have been actively been stopped boarding trains due to alcohol consumption the same can and should be done on flights.

And many more have been allowed on trains when they have been well inebriated beforehand.

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

As with so many things, this is about personal responsibility and accountability.

l quite agree.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

So like drunks getting on a train or coach we simply have to put up with it do we? as the airlines and train companies simply don't employ enough staff to deal with this increasing alcoholic problems that many sober passengers have to face daily on their travels.

Did you actually read my post, Den? I said that people who are drunk should not be allowed to proceed through the gates.

These people should not spoil it for responsible drinkers.

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Originally Posted by denphone

But that is the problem as they are allowed to fly in many cases and that ruins it for everybody else and the same sentiments apply to other transport modes as well as they don't employ trained staff to sort it out.

But the rules can be changed, Den!!

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Originally Posted by denphone

The trouble is the authorities have had these powers for ages and the vast majority of the time do diddly squat about it pip as yes l am all for freedom but sometimes a line needs to be drawn somewhere to stop the rabble ruining it for the vast majority.

In which case, they should enforce the rules!

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Originally Posted by blackthorn

You`re not allowed to drink your own drink on a plane so I`ve never understood why they sell the little bottles of minatures in dutyfree. It can`t be for any other reason than to drink on a plane.

Security issues, blackthorn, security!!

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Originally Posted by Taf

Smoking was banned from aircraft, now it's the turn of alcohol.

Just as smoking was banned from buses, trains, hospitals, schools, colleges, shops, parks, cinemas, theatres, pubs and some beaches, you can expect alcohol to be banned from all public places and forms of transport at some point.

Except for pubs.. but they are still closing down at a high rate, partly due to the smoking ban.

In which case, they should have pubs on planes.

That was a joke, by the way, in case anyone wasn't sure.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

In which case, they should have pubs on planes.

That was a joke, by the way, in case anyone wasn't sure.

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[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Did you actually read my post, Den? I said that people who are drunk should not be allowed to proceed through the gates.

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But the problem OB is they do allow them through the gates a lot more then you imagine.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

But the problem OB is they do allow them through the gates a lot more then you imagine.

As I said, rules can be changed and enforced. Drunks in airports stand out a mile and they should be told to sober up and get another ticket for the next day.

If you can't enforce straight forward rules with all that security at our airports, it's a pretty poor show.

What happens on trains is completely different. There is a distinct lack of security at stations. That's something else the government should be looking at, incidentally.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by denphone

But the problem OB is they do allow them through the gates a lot more then you imagine.

Not only do they let them trough the gate, they then give them alcohol on the plane. It's not really fair to ask stewardesses to say no/confront drunks and act as security/policemen.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Not only do they let them trough the gate, they then give them alcohol on the plane. It's not really fair to ask stewardesses to say no/confront drunks and act as security/policemen.

Exactly and its even worse on the railways as some train stations and trains are full of drunken louts with hardly a member of staff in sight Mr K.

[Taf]

Originally Posted by Damien

The thing is smoking has a negative impact on others in a way that alcohol, drunk in moderation, doesn't. You can't escape someone else's smoke on an airplane but if someone in front of you is drinking it doesn't harm you at all.

You're more likely to catch an airborne infection on an aircraft than suddenly come down with lung cancer 'cos of "second hand smoke".

Or catch a sudden chill when some drunk pops a door open to go out for a smoke

Originally Posted by Taf

You're more likely to catch an airborne infection on an aircraft than suddenly come down with lung cancer 'cos of "second hand smoke".

I am not sure of the science of it but I imagine frequently flyers might have their risk increased? Either way I was thinking more of it being unpleasant to have smoke in your face if you're not a smoker rather than health risks. The ventilation isn't brilliant on planes.