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Old 12-08-2017, 02:11   #871
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty

Interesting programme about this subject:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b092q9qr
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Old 19-10-2018, 21:33   #872
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Further Asian gang jailed for child abuse.

Yet again we see a case of Asian (Pakistani) men convicted of abuse, rape and violence against children, this time aged 11+.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45918845

Whilst doing a search to see if a thread already existed, I found a thread from 2009 on cablehell, showing that this has been going on for many, many years.

It seems that the police think that turning a blind eye is an act of political correctness, it is not racist to deal with Asian paedophiles.

Obviously, paedophiles come from allsorts of races, but it seems to be a particular problem with Asian men. Perhaps it's because of their traditional attitude towards females? If they want to live by the attitudes of their heritage, perhaps we should punish them likewise?

There ought to be a root and branch investigation to see why there are so many Asian gangs attracted to (mainly) underage white little girls.

My heart goes out to these children, who are unlikely to ever recover from this for the rest of their lives.
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Old 19-10-2018, 21:38   #873
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Re: Further Asian gang jailed for child abuse.

The BBC has been VERY careful not to mention their religion or ethnic origin... whilst showing the same 20 mugshots.
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Re: Further Asian gang jailed for child abuse.

There's already a thread for this.
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The BBC has been VERY careful not to mention their religion or ethnic origin... whilst showing the same 20 mugshots.
They weren't originally allowed to due to reporting restrictions which they managed to get lifted today.
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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...ighlight=asian
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The BBC has been VERY careful not to mention their religion or ethnic origin... whilst showing the same 20 mugshots.
Not that careful...

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During the three trials, jurors heard how the men - who are all British Asians mainly of Pakistani heritage - preyed on young, vulnerable girls, one of whom was described as having the mental age of a seven-year-old.
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The BBC has been VERY careful not to mention their religion or ethnic origin... whilst showing the same 20 mugshots.
Whilst they were nearly all Muslim, one of them was a Sikh.

I don’t think religion has that much in it. Men preying on vulnerable girls, doesn’t matter where they come from.
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Whilst they were nearly all Muslim, one of them was a Sikh.

I don’t think religion has that much in it. Men preying on vulnerable girls, doesn’t matter where they come from.
Yet so far in all the cases muslims have been in the majority by far.
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Whilst they were nearly all Muslim, one of them was a Sikh.

I don’t think religion has that much in it. Men preying on vulnerable girls, doesn’t matter where they come from.
Sadly yesterdays headlines proved your point.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/fred-rose-...-sh&soc_trk=fb
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Yet so far in all the cases muslims have been in the majority by far.
Not denying there is an issue with Asian/sub-continent men. The evidence speaks for itself.

But also, it’s not young girls from middle class backgrounds that are being raped, regardless of who rapes them.

Young girls abandoned and ignored by the authorities, tacitly allowed to be abused by these men with no appetite to stop them.

I do not in any way excuse these vile men, but their job was made easy.
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45918845

During the trials, the court heard girls would be driven up to remote moorland late at night and abandoned if they refused the men's sexual demands.

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A sheep farmer told the BBC how he found distressed girls on the doorstep of his isolated home on a number of occasions.

One victim said her relationship with some of the gang became "one of those things that you couldn't get out of".
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Victims and their families said they repeatedly told West Yorkshire Police what was happening but no arrests were made until years later.
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Barry Sheerman, Labour MP for Huddersfield, said: "Let's be honest: no-one, local authority leadership, police, many of the people that should have been taking this more seriously earlier did not.
Basically no one in authority wanted to know.
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Sadly yesterdays headlines proved your point.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/fred-rose-...-sh&soc_trk=fb
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During the trials, the court heard girls would be driven up to remote moorland late at night and abandoned if they refused the men's sexual demands.


Basically no one in authority wanted to know.
Attitudes towards young vulnerable children are at the heart of all these crimes, whether within groups of men (and some very twisted women) from a similar background, or those within some churches, it is the industrial scale of abuse that is so horrific.

Wherever this attitude comes from needs changing. No use just wringing hands and imprisoning the malefactors. The idea that this is either normal or acceptable, or turning a blind eye for fear of being called racist, or seeing it as protecting their own daughters by accepting this abuse of others vulnerable children needs to stop.

Teach your sons not to rape anyone. Teach them to respect the word no, and that no means no, not maybe or possibly or they didn't mean it, teach them that a short skirt or being in the wrong place does not mean they are fair game. Most of all teach them the law about the age of consent.
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty

To seemingly be able to simply ask the person next to you if they want to take part is quite staggering. These gangs seem to form more easily than for other groups taking part in more innocent and innocuous activities(eg pub quiz teams, football, bowling etc), and especially as it has to remain a secret. How are these gangs also establishing links with others around the country in order for the girls to be trafficked to those other areas?


People try to make comparisons with church related abuse, but the difference is that the offenders tended to be in positions in the church and not ordinary rank-and-file parishioners.
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To seemingly be able to simply ask the person next to you if they want to take part is quite staggering. These gangs seem to form more easily than for other groups taking part in more innocent and innocuous activities(eg pub quiz teams, football, bowling etc), and especially as it has to remain a secret. How are these gangs also establishing links with others around the country in order for the girls to be trafficked to those other areas?


People try to make comparisons with church related abuse, but the difference is that the offenders tended to be in positions in the church and not ordinary rank-and-file parishioners.
As I pointed out above, it does not matter who, why or how, this needs stamping on, wherever this attitude towards vulnerable children is allowed to thrive.
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