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Old 13-08-2017, 17:32   #1
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It's nearly here!

After a massive wait, a whole bunch of drama, and a few months of discussion with a director at VM who pushed the project through, cable has nearly arrived, and I'm nearly able to troll the Internet at ultrafast speeds again.

VM are certainly dedicated to coverage. A team spent a week reaching 4 properties through block paving.

They are, however, now in the process of standing the cabinet that will deliver my providings.

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Good stuff! Glad to see things are moving again
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Re: It's nearly here!

Never seen anyone that desperate for a Docsis connection since the Telewest days

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Never seen anyone that desperate for a Docsis connection since the Telewest days

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I know their plans for the next 9 months with said DOCSIS connection

Thank you!

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Thank you, Sir. A controversial and expensive project for relatively little return on your side, but given you've blitzed the rest of the ward be rude not to finish up these last thousand premises, especially given that this project pre-dates Lightning.

I am so grateful to VM for introducing competition to the area. I'm not sure BT would be deploying G.fast here if VM hadn't committed the 7-figure sum on the deployment here.

That sum really puts things into perspective. To roll out VDSL / FTTC to the cabinet area probably cost BT, for both VDSL cabs and the copper extension, maybe 50 grand tops, with the G.fast pod coming in at another 10. To pass the premises covered by that BT cabinet VM are spending not 60 grand but closer to 500. That's serious investment, and I'm delighted to see it here.
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Thank you, Sir. A controversial and expensive project for relatively little return on your side, but given you've blitzed the rest of the ward be rude not to finish up these last thousand premises, especially given that this project pre-dates Lightning.

I am so grateful to VM for introducing competition to the area. I'm not sure BT would be deploying G.fast here if VM hadn't committed the 7-figure sum on the deployment here.

That sum really puts things into perspective. To roll out VDSL / FTTC to the cabinet area probably cost BT, for both VDSL cabs and the copper extension, maybe 50 grand tops, with the G.fast pod coming in at another 10. To pass the premises covered by that BT cabinet VM are spending not 60 grand but closer to 500. That's serious investment, and I'm delighted to see it here.
I may be reading this wrong but if it costs VM 500k to cover the same number of customers that BT does with 60K, they may need to revisit their business model
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I may be reading this wrong but if it costs VM 500k to cover the same number of customers that BT does with 60K, they may need to revisit their business model
That's the difference between building a new cabinet and having to dig to every home.

The difference being VM can sell TV, phone, broadband to properties. BT have to make the business case based around wholesale revenues only, and only incremental wholesale revenues on top of what they are already making from standard phone and broadband services.

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Kinda. Will be taking a business service and leaving a VDSL line in place as a backup.

Given I currently have 2 x VDSL lines one of them will go.
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The quango responsible for fibre rollout in Scotland is still fobbing us off with the "it's challenging to bring fibre to homes on an EO line" excuse. Our exchange's predicted upgrade date has been slowly pushed back so it's always been 6 months in the future, with all the EO lines outside the village due for upgrade an indeterminate period of time beyond that.

About 12 months ago they did something that improved my sync from about 2.5Mb to around 4.2Mb but unfortunately my B&B guests (and my kids) have developed expectations far beyond our line's ability.
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If you're as remote as I think you are the only options to serve you, other than satellite, are fibre to the premises or a fixed wireless / 4G service.

You're likely losing out due to value for money. Delivering to you costs a bomb, while they can get through a number of other premises for that same funding.
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That's the difference between building a new cabinet and having to dig to every home.

The difference being VM can sell TV, phone, broadband to properties. BT have to make the business case based around wholesale revenues only, and only incremental wholesale revenues on top of what they are already making from standard phone and broadband services.

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Kinda. Will be taking a business service and leaving a VDSL line in place as a backup.

Given I currently have 2 x VDSL lines one of them will go.
Fair point.

With the switch to VM as your main WFH platform, does alleged latency woes of the Hub3 modem impact you at all?

So far, since switching to the Hub3, I have yet to notice any real world issues on VPN, Jabber, Zoom, VNC, RDP, etc.
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If you're as remote as I think you are the only options to serve you, other than satellite, are fibre to the premises or a fixed wireless / 4G service.

You're likely losing out due to value for money. Delivering to you costs a bomb, while they can get through a number of other premises for that same funding.
Indeed. Fortunately there's a ton of cash sloshing around the system in Scotland so I know I'll get something eventually. I'd prefer to avoid 4g if I can though, I used a 4g modem/router on holiday and it cost a fortune, plus the latency was sky high. Not unlike satellite, which is even worse ...

I'm hoping to eventually get fibre to the premises, or close to at least. We are reasonably remote but we are also in a tourist hotspot and there are hotels and other businesses crying out for fast connectivity. Many of them are even further from the exchange than us.
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It's likely you'll have FTTP before I do.
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Cabinet has been stood. There is some work to do with road crossings, etc, on the road between mine and the rest of the network, civils should be done and network being tested by the end of next week. Should be able to order shortly after.
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