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Old 14-09-2017, 23:27   #421
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As others have noted the MP is reporting second hand what his child told him about an alleged event in class as presumably the MP wasn't there at the time.
So we don't know if it's true, a childs slant on something that was said or complete make believe.
If it is true then it's awful, don't know what else there is to say.
That's all fine but you first implied I had some vendetta against teachers and then exaggerated what I clearly stated needed to be done about the person responsible. Right now we don't even know if an investigation is underway but why don't we? If my son was accused of even touching one of his students he'd be suspended on the basis of that accusation NOT ACTUAL PROOF. So when are we going to hear that the teacher implicated here is suspended pending investigation? Maybe allegations of bullying of a Tory's offspring doesn't warrant the same treatment in your books eh?
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That's all fine but you first implied I had some vendetta against teachers and then exaggerated what I clearly stated needed to be done about the person responsible. Right now we don't even know if an investigation is underway but why don't we? If my son was accused of even touching one of his students he'd be suspended on the basis of that accusation NOT ACTUAL PROOF. So when are we going to hear that the teacher implicated here is suspended pending investigation? Maybe allegations of bullying of a Tory's offspring doesn't warrant the same treatment in your books eh?
So who's extrapolating now !
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Presumably Mr Stewart has raised it with the school, rather than just using his son in a political debate ?
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What's wrong with the phone or email Den? Social media just seem to bring out trolls and general nastiness.
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Remember all those Labour 'promises' that we could at long last have a debate on managed migration without resorting to accusations of racism? Yeah right, here we go again:

https://order-order.com/2017/09/24/c...tion-bunfight/

According to Lewis if you want to control migration into the UK you're a racist. Nice. Did anyone seriously think these people had gone away? Vote them in and it'll be much much more of the same and far worse for anyone with the temerity to disagree. Labour's loonies never change.

Even Brexit is racist to some strange folks evidently:

https://order-order.com/2017/09/24/b...ur-conference/
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Remember all those Labour 'promises' that we could at long last have a debate on managed migration without resorting to accusations of racism? Yeah right, here we go again:
Leopards never change their spots.

God help us all if this rabble ever get into number 10: Venezuela without the oil.
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Leopards never change their spots.

God help us all if this rabble ever get into number 10: Venezuela without the oil.
Some of us know that yes. Some folks on the other hand never seem to learn that lesson when it comes to Labour and their nasty stereotyping of everyone who disagrees. It's never far beneath the surface no matter what they say or do and every so often one of them - Corbyn, Abbott, McDonnell, Lewis, Livingstone or whoever - will let the cat out of the bag and remind us what they really are and how their brand of intolerance is really no less nasty or extreme than their equivalent loonies on the far right.

Here we go again with Labour's nonsense - this time it's supposedly taking back in house all those PFI contracts a large number of which were agreed during the Blair/Brown years of economic 'prudence'.

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A future Labour government would bring "wasteful" PFI contracts back in the public sector, shadow chancellor John McDonnell has said.
He told Labour's conference the contracts were set to cost the taxpayer £200bn over coming decades and private companies were making "huge profits".
He said Labour, which has previously promised to strike no new deals, would bring PFI contracts "back in-house".
Labour sources later said this meant they would "review" all PFI contracts.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41379849

What does he mean and what will it all cost? It's the usual questions about populist unaffordable Labour garbage which they never seem able to answer for some odd reason...

Before the election it was wiping out student debts and we know what happened to that 'promise' don't we. It went the same way as so many others they could never have delivered on...

---------- Post added at 16:24 ---------- Previous post was at 16:08 ----------

Some really nice folk disproving once and for all that Labour has a serious problem with anti-semtism:

https://order-order.com/2017/09/25/l...el-like-nazis/

Heartwarming stuff isn't it.

Labour is about as likely to reform the nastiness out of the party as the EU is to forget all about a single European state so nobody ought to be holding their breath waiting.
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Remember all those Labour 'promises' that we could at long last have a debate on managed migration without resorting to accusations of racism? Yeah right, here we go again:

https://order-order.com/2017/09/24/c...tion-bunfight/

According to Lewis if you want to control migration into the UK you're a racist. Nice. Did anyone seriously think these people had gone away? Vote them in and it'll be much much more of the same and far worse for anyone with the temerity to disagree. Labour's loonies never change.

Even Brexit is racist to some strange folks evidently:

https://order-order.com/2017/09/24/b...ur-conference/
Osem, I am trying to stay Labour news free this week , but all I am hearing on various outlets so far, is total chaos and it is only Monday.

So far I have heard, BBC reporter needing a Security detail, a mother and baby being denied entry because baby does not have a conference pass and talk of Ed Miliband going off on one at Corbyn, oh and J.K Rowling tweeting that she is [Insert Profanity] Depressed, about there being a cult for an opposition. So business as usual in the Labour camp.
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Osem, I am trying to stay Labour news free this week , but all I am hearing on various outlets so far, is total chaos and it is only Monday.

So far I have heard, BBC reporter needing a Security detail, a mother and baby being denied entry because baby does not have a conference pass and talk of Ed Miliband going off on one at Corbyn, oh and J.K Rowling tweeting that she is [Insert Profanity] Depressed, about there being a cult for an opposition. So business as usual in the Labour camp.
Yup, chaos, lies, spin, nastiness and intolerance as usual. They behave just like the people they spend so much time directing their foul bile towards. How anyone can fail to see that or think they'd be a credible government defeats me. Just look at the stuff they get up to and I'm talking senior party figures not just a few back bench nobodies like that perpetual idiot Dennis Skinner...
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Whilst trying to find details of Sadiq Khan's record on apologising for another thread I did find one rather pertinent example of him apologising for his party's behaviour in stereotyping UKIP supporters as being racist.

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Take immigration. In the past, we were too quick to dismiss concerns about immigration, or even worse - accused people of prejudice.

We all remember Gillian Duffy. We were wrong. We are sorry.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/478...to-Ukip-voters

Maybe he should have a quick word with his former colleague Clive Lewis who clearly hasn't read Corbyn's script but of course an election isn't imminent so it's OK for Labour to revert to type.
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Yawn, another evening of right wing hate on CF..... Express yawn, order-order, yawn. Immigration, yawn, Muslim mayor, yawn whinge rant etc, yawn. .... They aren't in power so no big deal eh? That's why things have gone so wonderfully for the past 7 years, and we have brilliant health service, with austerity having been worth it, the country united, living standards rocketing.... Everything is rosey with UK plc so chillax...
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Yawn, another evening of right wing hate on CF..... Express yawn, order-order, yawn. Immigration, yawn, Muslim mayor, yawn whinge rant etc, yawn. .... They aren't in power so no big deal eh? That's why things have gone so wonderfully for the past 7 years, and we have brilliant health service, with austerity having been worth it, the country united, living standards rocketing.... Everything is rosey with UK plc so chillax...
There's some good telly on tonight too, you're missing it
You chill, you are not the only one with a TiVo box. We're not missing anything on the television that we want to watch.

And you whinge about austerity, but if Labour was ever to get in, there would be no money left to buy a tesco value tea bag. John Mcdonnell would have squandered it writing off people's credit card debts and then returning, Water, Railways, energy, Royal Mail back to state, which would cost hundreds of billions, but he ain't prepared to pay market rate.

Business investors will run for the hills with this clown in charge of the purse strings.
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You chill, you are not the only one with a TiVo box. We're not missing anything on the television that we want to watch.

And you whinge about austerity, but if Labour was ever to get in, there would be no money left to buy a tesco value tea bag. John Mcdonnell would have squandered it writing off people's credit card debts and then returning, Water, Railways, energy, Royal Mail back to state, which would cost hundreds of billions, but he ain't prepared to pay market rate.

Business investors will run for the hills with this clown in charge of the purse strings.
I think some of their proposals are quite good, the credit card clamp down being one, the Tories would do well to pinch it imo
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I think some of their proposals are quite good, the credit card clamp down being one, the Tories would do well to pinch it imo
Most parties have a few decent policies but the trouble with some is they find it hard to see further then their nose and take off their rose tinted glasses from time to time.
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You chill, you are not the only one with a TiVo box. We're not missing anything on the television that we want to watch.

And you whinge about austerity, but if Labour was ever to get in, there would be no money left to buy a tesco value tea bag. John Mcdonnell would have squandered it writing off people's credit card debts and then returning, Water, Railways, energy, Royal Mail back to state, which would cost hundreds of billions, but he ain't prepared to pay market rate.

Business investors will run for the hills with this clown in charge of the purse strings.
Correct. Some folks have short memories and/or a refusal to accept the facts of Labour's previous when it comes to damaging UK PLC with their flawed economic policy and the lack of regulatory oversight of the banking system (which Brown was heavily reliant on to provide the money he was spending like confetti). They whine about out of control spending since then but never want to talk about the amount of money successive governments have been having to shell out just to pay for Labour's profligacy and Brown's 'prudence' when they were in office.

Typically they're at it again now, nationalise this, take control of that, more money for everything blah, blah, blah - loads of simplistic populist hot air without any credible means by which to pay for it just as they did with their pre-election student loan lies. What sort of people buy into this garbage?
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