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[Alan Fry]

To be honest nuclear power is expensive and is a huge liability

We need to have more renewable energy

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

To be honest nuclear power is expensive and is a huge liability

I'm not being funny Alan, but you have just lost all my credibility in this debate by agreeing with me. Nobody will believe me now.

Please start arguing with me so that I can get my credibility back

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

I'm not being funny Alan, but you have just lost all my credibility in this debate by agreeing with me. Nobody will believe me now.

Please start arguing with me so that I can get my credibility back

I don't normally say this, but I agree with you, Nuclear power, while a eco-friendly source, is expensive, dangerous and you have to reposibvle for it for 1,000 years.

Hence why I do not see why why is worth the risk

The government could be the money to build more wind farms etc

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

I don't normally say this, but I agree with you, Nuclear power, while a eco-friendly source, is expensive, dangerous and you have to reposibvle for it for 1,000 years.

Hence why I do not see why why is worth the risk

The government could be the money to build more wind farms etc

Not sure i've ever heard nuclear power being described as "eco friendly" Alan

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by martyh

Not sure i've ever heard nuclear power being described as "eco friendly" Alan

They do not give out much Co2

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

They do not give out much Co2

Over to you Tim ,i'll let you handle that one ,after all he's agreeing with you

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

Have you ever lived on the top of a hill in the middle of the Pennines? It's not very often that there is no wind. And the same goes for off shore.

Wind power isn't the only alternative.

In my town there used to be a remote controlled gas turbine generator, that was only used when it was really needed.

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And then kill the sea life with radiation.

The Irish sea is the most radioactive sea in the world thanks to Sellafield.

IIRC too much wind is also a problem for these turbines - they only work in a certain range of conditions.

As for the Irish sea, you are talking about very old technology there and things have moved on a tad since Windscale was built. Of course there are risks associated with the nuclear option but there are benefits too. Sadly, for the reasons I mentioned before, I don't think we're in much of a position to choose now.

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

I don't normally say this, but I agree with you, Nuclear power, while a eco-friendly source, is expensive, dangerous and you have to reposibvle for it for 1,000 years.

Hence why I do not see why why is worth the risk

The government could be the money to build more wind farms etc

Radiation is not eco friendly

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Originally Posted by martyh

Over to you Tim ,i'll let you handle that one ,after all he's agreeing with you

I don't know if I can handle him agreeing with me

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

Radiation is not eco friendly

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I don't know if I can handle him agreeing with me

Well you know what he suggests for those who disagree with his 'master plan' don't you....

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Osem

Well you know what he suggests for those who disagree with his 'master plan' don't you....

You mean most of the world's population?

We would all love it if all our energy needs could come from renewable energy sources but the truth is that technology is nowhere near effective or mature enough yet. It's a sad fact that for too long in the UK we have neglected longterm planning for our energy needs and now find ourselves near the edge.

I would prefer an alternative to nuclear but right now we don't have one. My way of looking at it is in the shortterm we need nuclear but must use the breathing space that will give us to further develop and refine the alternatives to the point we're the world leaders in it and can base a portion of our economy on high tech well paid manufacturing in the future.

Sometimes we have to make do in order to progress thats where i see us at the minute.

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

We would all love it if all our energy needs could come from renewable energy sources but the truth is that technology is nowhere near effective or mature enough yet. It's a sad fact that for too long in the UK we have neglected longterm planning for our energy needs and now find ourselves near the edge.

I would prefer an alternative to nuclear but right now we don't have one. My way of looking at it is in the shortterm we need nuclear but must use the breathing space that will give us to further develop and refine the alternatives to the point we're the world leaders in it and can base a portion of our economy on high tech well paid manufacturing in the future.

Sometimes we have to make do in order to progress thats where i see us at the minute.

Unfortunately nuclear power is never short term, as the waste is still highly radioactive for 1000 years. Now that is very long term

[nomadking]

It doesn't matter one little bit, what marvellous advances are made in wind and solar technology. The unreliable and intermittent nature of the source energy means that you will ALWAYS have to have enough conventional generating capacity as if the wind and solar systems were not there in the first place.

The only possible ways they could contribute is if the energy could be stored(unlikely), or if there was a 2nd national grid system feeding back into the power stations, and using it to pre-heat the water that is turned into steam to drive turbines. That would allow the smoothing out of the intermittent nature of the renewable energy.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

Radiation is not eco friendly[COLOR="Silver"]

I meant that Nulclear emits no carbon, but that still not enough for the risks involved

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

We would all love it if all our energy needs could come from renewable energy sources but the truth is that technology is nowhere near effective or mature enough yet. It's a sad fact that for too long in the UK we have neglected longterm planning for our energy needs and now find ourselves near the edge.

I would prefer an alternative to nuclear but right now we don't have one. My way of looking at it is in the shortterm we need nuclear but must use the breathing space that will give us to further develop and refine the alternatives to the point we're the world leaders in it and can base a portion of our economy on high tech well paid manufacturing in the future.

Sometimes we have to make do in order to progress thats where i see us at the minute.

We have a huge amount of renewable rsources that are not exploited in the UK, Nuclear is expensive and is a huge liablity for a very long time

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Originally Posted by nomadking

It doesn't matter one little bit, what marvellous advances are made in wind and solar technology. The unreliable and intermittent nature of the source energy means that you will ALWAYS have to have enough conventional generating capacity as if the wind and solar systems were not there in the first place.

The only possible ways they could contribute is if the energy could be stored(unlikely), or if there was a 2nd national grid system feeding back into the power stations, and using it to pre-heat the water that is turned into steam to drive turbines. That would allow the smoothing out of the intermittent nature of the renewable energy.

Or we could build more biomass power stations?

[Tim Deegan]

Geothermal power is being used in some countries. And it is said to be viable in the UK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_energy