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Old 01-04-2012, 14:47   #16
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After all the promises of a 'freedom bill' designed to roll back the more intrusive aspects of Labour's time in power, after strongly opposing the same measures when Labour tried to introduce this, the government to set to bring forward new laws to allow monitoring of internet usage.
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Old 01-04-2012, 14:59   #17
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Re: Government to monitor Internet Use

This will work well to catch those pesky terrorists as long as nobody tells them about VPNs.
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This will work well to catch those pesky terrorists as long as nobody tells them about VPNs.
I'm not going to tell Mohammed.

but I think if they feel that there's a need for this then they must be worried about the olympics.

then again. if no terrorist activity happens with the olympics then I don't see a need for it.
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Re: Government to monitor Internet Use

The more we let things like this happen to us. the more will be done to us in stages at a later date.
we will be that used to being nannied and rules being dictated to us. that every extra stage will be an extension of the other, and will be the norm.

but remember. it's a lot like petrol. once it's at that stage there will be no going back.

This isn't about terrorism or crime. it's all part of the Big Plan.
nobody has even mentioned saving the life of a child for a start. which makes you suspicious.

I thought we were going to be like Americans. but it looks like we're going to be Chinese.

you have been warned, and good luck comrade.
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lol

just search for "Papa smurf does vegas"
Done that and it very good results
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I can see Internet tax coming here.
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I can see Internet tax coming here.
already do Arthur ,VAT ,but i wouldn't put it past them to slap a connection tax or something like that on us ,now shut up and stop giving them ideas ,remember .....

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I can see Internet tax coming here.
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Re: Government to monitor Internet Use

If you expect the worse, you will alway be a miserable sod....

However, hope for the best, plan for the worst....
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Old 01-04-2012, 22:07   #26
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Re: Government to monitor Internet Use

If people use it a lot, don't tell David, he will find another of getting a tax out of it.

At the moment various companies charge for a connection fee.

BUT according to a Tv guy that offerd advice on saving money, BT have the lines for phones etc, BUT companies offer connection offers, but its already there, so why the connection fee..
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http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...eb-monitoring-

You know thought this april fool but express do write up too.

Still suspected it april fool waited for tha aha got people.

Folks its worse if aint april fool. Its actually very distateful worse then when ID cards got mooted many moons ago.

Phone taps included seems we will be totally monitered from web, email and phone.

Now if remember labour under blair looked at the americans NSA system.

Now how would they get around the law land that must goto courts for warrant and have suspecting wrong doing. It means they have to follow A procedure. To do this would destroy our constitution of OUR RIGHTS.

Under labour the same concerns came up who watches these watchers from using it political means rather anti terrorists.

It got crushed then seems its being resurfaced. Either cameron really really stupid or his in mindset of committing political harrycarry.

Worry it could easily be illegally used to opress nation. To stop rights to strike rights to march and any other liberty such freedom speach.

Another is what about politians being tapped information then could be held against the oposite party whoever in government in time.

I think once we start going down absolute secret society of knowing everything anything of every single human being respect is gone of people in power.
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Re: Government to monitor Internet Use

Why do they want to monitor internet use, terrorism?

The latest mortality statistic I could get my hands on was for England and Wales from 2010. Of the total 493,242 deaths in 2010 not one was due to terrorism.

So if the government is interested in protecting the public from harm they could look at for example the 141,446 deaths due to cancers and neoplasms as this was up +0.7% on the previous year or digestive diseases (25,662) up +1.7% on 2009.

I know money is already spent in these areas and I'm not saying counter-terrorism is not important but we need prospective.

If we are so frightened of terrorism that we are willing to give up the presumption of innocence then the terrorist have already won.

I know what you’re thinking; another wishy-washy liberal, if I’ve got nothing to hide, I’ve got nothing to fear, right!
I just don’t want to be treated like a criminal without reasonable suspicion.
The use of existing anti-terror laws don’t exactly have a good track record, no reason to think the data collected if this goes through would be any different, assuming they don’t just leave it on a train.

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Why do they want to monitor internet use, terrorism?

The latest mortality statistic I could get my hands on was for England and Wales from 2010. Of the total 493,242 deaths in 2010 not one was due to terrorism.

So if the government is interested in protecting the public from harm they could look at for example the 141,446 deaths due to cancers and neoplasms as this was up +0.7% on the previous year or digestive diseases (25,662) up +1.7% on 2009.

I know money is already spent in these areas and I'm not saying counter-terrorism is not important but we need prospective.

If we are so frightened of terrorism that we are willing to give up the presumption of innocence then the terrorist have already won.

I know what you’re thinking; another wishy-washy liberal, if I’ve got nothing to hide, I’ve got nothing to fear, right!
I just don’t want to be treated like a criminal without reasonable suspicion.
The use of existing anti-terror laws don’t exactly have a good track record, no reason to think the data collected if this goes through would be any different, assuming they don’t just leave it on a train.
Damn, now I'm on the watch list.
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does anybody think this might be the PHORM thing back

rizzyking will be pleased if this could be PHORM involved.
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AFAIK Phorm actually sat on your PC, unless you have the blockers installed, and reported your browsing habits back to base to then target advertising at you. This is wholesale data flow capture and analysis by means of installed hardware in the ISP's infrastructure.

Now if the information stayed within the confines of GCHQ anti-terrorism activities or serious law enforcement, I might just about consider it justified. However this is not what is being proposed: All and sundry public bodies down to the local council and even some charities will have full access to all the information and you know how those petty little beuraucrats just love to abuse any laws that they can if it means they can lord it about over joe public.

Remember how existing anti-terrorism laws are used to justify chips in wheelie-bins or to chuck awkward pensioners out of political meetings or any other of a thousand ways the legislation was never intended for. If this snooping comes in, in the form that is proposed, it will be shamefully abused.

With the cavalier way that government bodies treat data integrity expect your most intemate details to be public knowledge or even sold to the highest bidder.
indeed I have on phorm.

Yep scary thought data integrity agree this fear all about raising money but there also danger it misused.

We should not take anything face value.

I can only imagine how much this will cost to monitor telephones, internet and discussion networks. theres alot manpower or this there way to create jobs with loads and loads snoops.

Scary thought what we typing here being monitored.

Why dont they go wholly paraniod have microchips, keyloggers installed in phones, keyboards. Hang on giving these idiots ideas again.

I actually wondering what they scared off.
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