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Old 16-04-2017, 23:44   #1261
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

This makes interesting reading.

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Sources with links to the intelligence community say it is believed that Carter Page went to Moscow in early July carrying with him a pre-recorded tape of Donald Trump offering to change American policy if he were to be elected, to make it more favorable to Putin. In exchange, Page was authorized directly by Trump to request the help of the Russian government in hacking the election.
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Old 16-04-2017, 23:59   #1262
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Seriously Andrew your trying to imply Trump is following the clinton foreign policy line which was just an extension of the obama line which Trump has clearly not followed so far nor looks like doing anytime soon. Obama and his disinterest is why we have the situation with North Korea and it's why Russia has taken more aggressive steps then it was before Obama and lets not mention the total mess he created in Syria. Obama was a foreign policy disaster and clinton would have managed to be worse given her attitude that baiting Russia was a good idea, the further Trump stays away from their line the better for all of us.
1. Nato
Electioneering Trump: Nato is obsolete.
Hillary Clinton & Presidential Trump: Keep Nato, it plays a vital role.

2. China
Electioneering Trump: Will designate China a currency-manipulator on his first day in office.
Hillary Clinton & Presidential Trump: Don't designate China a currency-manipulator.

3. Syria
Electioneering Trump: Less involvement than Bush in Syria, adopt an America-first policy, fate of Assad in the hands of the Syrian people.
Hillary Clinton & Presidential Trump: Global policeman.
"Indeed, Trump seems to be carrying out precisely the same policy toward Syria that Clinton promised, not only during the campaign but also in an interview just hours before the strikes."

4. Russia
Electioneering Trump: Happy to praise Putin.
Hillary Clinton & Presidential Trump: Traditional wary approach.
"What this suggests is that to whatever extent Trump’s campaign and initial administration might have been “pro-Russian”, its current orientation is the same as Clinton’s..."

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Old 17-04-2017, 00:10   #1263
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It's not same as Clintons Andrew, far from it. You have posted inaccurate stuff there on both Trump and Clinton policies during the campaign. It's all irrelevant either way, she lost (thankfully).
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Old 17-04-2017, 02:00   #1264
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

If you just post the general headlines it looks very similar but if you delve deeper then a puddle huge differences become obvious and the massive change in approach and policy is also obvious. Just one to get you started Trump is still pushing for all NATO members to pay their fair share and that failure to do so will have consequences.
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Old 17-04-2017, 08:17   #1265
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If you just post the general headlines it looks very similar but if you delve deeper then a puddle huge differences become obvious and the massive change in approach and policy is also obvious. Just one to get you started Trump is still pushing for all NATO members to pay their fair share and that failure to do so will have consequences.
What is the massive change in approach? Pushing for NATO to pay their fair share is standard as well, Trump is more vocal on it certainly but that isn't a massive change.

Trump has continued the US military action in the middle east. He has also intervened in Syria which has a massive point of contention in the election campaign with Clinton's calls for the same being called the start of WW3 - by Trump himself.

He has even continued America's attempts to curry favor with China rather than labeling them a currency manipulator. Remember in the campaign when China was his biggest foreign policy foe? Turns out that there are reasons why America has previously sought to work with China - i.e their massive size and their political influence in Asia.

I think these are good u-turns but it's mad not to call them as such.

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This makes interesting reading.
Way too wacky.

Why record yourself on tape giving incriminating offers? Why state explicitly what the quid-pro-quo is when both sides would already know it?

If there was collusion between the two it would be advisors speaking to Russian agents about when e-mails would be leaked and off the record assurances of sanctions being lifted etc. All Russia needed is that Trump isn't Clinton and for a while their objectives would have been the same.
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This makes interesting reading.
Good to see that The Onion has some competition at last, this is the funniest thing on the thread I've read for a long time.
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

The Donald's head will explode when he hears about this although I did find one of the groups detractors responses about Trump being neither amusing


Dr Francis made clear that he - like the psychiatrists diagnosing Trump - is not a fan of the president, and finds his politics 'distressing'.
However, he insists that 'psychiatric name-calling is a misguided way of countering' the president's approach to politics.
In fact, he said, he feels it is an 'insult to the mentally ill (who are mostly well behaved and well meaning) to be lumped with Mr Trump (who is neither)'.
He writes: 'Bad behavior is rarely a sign of mental illness, and the mentally ill behave badly only rarely


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...ists-warn.html

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