Hundreds attend protest after 3 cyclists killed on streets of London in under a week

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

you know i'm leather chaps at the weekends

You little tease you

Originally Posted by techguyone

Actually all VED tax from March will actually not go into general taxation but will be specifically used for Roads, so guess what, it is Road Tax again just like pre 1937, bicyclists freeloaders :P

http://road.cc/content/news/156795-r...will-see-money

Emissions based. Read thread.....

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Kursk

The 'car tax' for small cars is £0. How much do you think cyclists should pay?

It won't be zero forever, as soon as revenues fall due to older cars just falling to bits they'll have to pay, same with electric cars, as soon as we've all got them charging points won't be free anymore but you'll still be demanding something for nothing

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

It won't be zero forever, as soon as revenues fall due to older cars just falling to bits they'll have to pay, same with electric cars, as soon as we've all got them charging points won't be free anymore but you'll still be demanding something for nothing

Something for nothing?

I pay Vehicle Excise Duty, fuel tax, Income tax, Council Tax, stamp duty, national insurance, VAT etc etc and I receive no handouts from the public purse whatsoever. I sometimes ride a bike (which I buy and maintain myself - no handouts for bikes) on roads (but not motorways or pedestrianised areas) built and designed for motor vehicles and which are laced with all manner of dangers for bikes. The only something I get for free is the possibility of premature death because driving standards are so poor.

Let he/she who is without handouts cast the first stone when it comes to something for nothing.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Something for nothing?

I pay Vehicle Excise Duty, fuel tax, Income tax, Council Tax, stamp duty, national insurance, VAT etc etc and I receive no handouts from the public purse whatsoever. I sometimes ride a bike (which I buy and maintain myself - no handouts for bikes) on roads (but not motorways or pedestrianised areas) built and designed for motor vehicles and which are laced with all manner of dangers for bikes. The only something I get for free is the possibility of premature death because driving standards are so poor.

Let he/she who is without handouts cast the first stone when it comes to something for nothing.

Silly me, I didn't realise you could cover multiple vehicles with one car tax, I thought it was only valid for the vehicle it was registered to.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Silly me, I didn't realise you could cover multiple vehicles with one car tax, I thought it was only valid for the vehicle it was registered to.

Your self proclaimed silliness is understood. Let me simplify for you:

1. There will be no specific bicycle road tax. Ever.

2. Cyclist safety will improve as gridlock makes motor vehicles static.

Get a bike if you want to get ahead .

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Your self proclaimed silliness is understood. Let me simplify for you:

1. There will be no specific bicycle road tax. Ever.

2. Cyclist safety will improve as gridlock makes motor vehicles static.

Get a bike if you want to get ahead .

Let me get this straight, we've got no cash to repair the roads or pot holes, no cash for the health service and can't even scrape some pennies together to keep a poxy library open but we've got tens of millions to tear up half of the capital cities main roads, cause untold congestion and air pollution for something people don't use and won't use because it's in the wrong place and yet I'm the simpleton

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Let me get this straight, we've got no cash to repair the roads or pot holes, no cash for the health service and can't even scrape some pennies together to keep a poxy library open but we've got tens of millions to tear up half of the capital cities main roads, cause untold congestion and air pollution for something people don't use and won't use because it's in the wrong place and yet I'm the simpleton

A harshly self-critical statement if I might say so; be kinder to yourself.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Kursk

A harshly self-critical statement if I might say so; be kinder to yourself.

Its true I am my biggest critic, it's my worst trait, that and I give to much

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Its true I am my biggest critic, it's my worst trait, that and I give to much

To your credit though is that you share your opinion in a civil and dignified manner; traits from which we all, myself included, might benefit.

Cycling is a fun pastime for me and I think it's important for lots of reasons. It is abused in much the same way that anything that involves people is abused, but there is a need to reach a peace on the roads for all our sakes. Hating each other doesn't work and we're all fathers, husbands, sons, daughters, mothers etc when we're riding a bike or driving a car. We all need to get home. Safely.

[Dude111]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I agree with arthur, cyclists cannot have it all their own way.......

Alot of times they think they own the roads!!!!!!! -- That I think causes 1/2 the problems..... (The other 1/2 is caused by careless drivers who dont seem to care who is on the road...... CYCLISTS HAVE TO USE EXTREME CARE!!)

Very sad indeed.....

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Dude111

Alot of times they think they own the roads!!!!!!! -- That I think causes 1/2 the problems..... (The other 1/2 is caused by careless drivers who dont seem to care who is on the road...... CYCLISTS HAVE TO USE EXTREME CARE!!)

Very sad indeed.....

Aarrgghh! If the same issues are arising in the States, it must be that cycling and motorists just don't mix.

We need to spend £bn not £m on new cycleways .

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Aarrgghh! If the same issues are arising in the States, it must be that cycling and motorists just don't mix.

We need to spend £bn not £m on new cycleways .

cheaper and safer to abolish cycling ,melt the bikes down and make something useful like spoons .

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

cheaper and safer to abolish cycling ,melt the bikes down and make something useful like spoons .

Gangsta Smurf

[mrmistoffelees]

http://road.cc/content/news/217872-g...ing-successful

Didn't know this had been done by other forces..... may help those who drive without courtesy

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

http://road.cc/content/news/217872-g...ing-successful

Didn't know this had been done by other forces..... may help those who drive without courtesy

Excellent, thanks for the heads up I'll ask the local plod to participate .