Post-Brexit Thread

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by martyh

how the hell is the government acting in what it considers the best interests of the country considered a warped world view it's what we bloody well elect them

A valiant attempt but I fear your words are falling on particularly deaf ears.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Here's the details on this story:

Breitbart declares war on Kellogg's after cereal brand pulls advertising from site

You can't make this stuff up!

you quote from it chapter and verse [like other news outlets] but claim not to be a reader ,you can't make this stuff up . bless .

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

A valiant attempt but I fear your words are falling on particularly deaf ears.

it looked like illiterate drivel so i ignored it .


"it's what we bloody well elect them" pass .

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Three words .. impressive .. one more and you have a personal best ..

The thread started off in the day with interesting discussions about the UK's relationship with the EU post-Brexit. Come the end of the evening and without provocation people are throwing names around that would not be out of place on the school playground.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

you quote from it chapter and verse [like other news outlets] but claim not to be a reader ,you can't make this stuff up . bless

The quote was from the Guardian article

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The thread started off in the day with interesting discussions about the UK's relationship with the EU post-Brexit. Come the end of the evening and without provocation people are throwing names around that would not be out of place on the school playground.

You're are right here. The constant use of the childish names is aimed at winding people up. It has no other purpose from what I can see. It certainly does not further debate, just the opposite.

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Originally Posted by martyh

The government will take us out of Europe ,they have a mandate to do that but you have to realise that they are duty bound to do so in a manner that they feel is going to benefit everyone ,that's why we put them in office in the first place ,if they don't they don't belong in government .
You also need to realise that this isn't a war with a winning and losing side .I want to leave but i don't the country split down the middle with a 'them and us' culture ,that would be more damaging than staying in the EU.
I really wish the vote had been more decisive one way or the other then we would not be having these problems

I would like to thank you for this post. Your analysis is accurate and unbiased.

The referendum had a (small) majority to leave the EU. There was not a vote on the terms of leaving. The Leave campaign (in its many forms) had a variety of suggestions some of which have already been ruled out (by the Leave leaders themselves).

The bottom line is that we are leaving the EU. However, it is the responsbility of the Government to get the best deal for the long term prosperity of the country.

It is not the duty of the Government to seek some ideological hard-core Brexit solution just so it can appease the zealous right wingers.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Come the end of the evening and without provocation people are throwing names around that would not be out of place on the school playground.

Yep. Guilty as charged. After all the names that brexiteers like myself were called after the vote (stupid, racist etc) , I figured that as I can't beat the remoaners I'll join them.
Funny how the snowflakes get unhappy when it's done to them

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Originally Posted by ianch99

The bottom line is that we are leaving the EU. However, it is the responsbility of the Government to get the best deal for the long term prosperity of the country.

I agree completely. The problem is that the govt won't really be able to get the best deals if it's thoughts and plans are open to scrutiny by all and sundry before negotiations start.

It is not the duty of the Government to seek some ideological hard-core Brexit solution just so it can appease the zealous right wingers.

I agree again but if remoaners keep pushing and obstructing the process they may well force the govt to hard brexit asap rather than risk the process being adversely softened or scuppered completely.

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I'll leave this here again: New Lib Dem MP Skewered on Brexit

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Yep. Guilty as charged. After all the names that brexiteers like myself were called after the vote (stupid, racist etc) , I figured that as I can't beat the remoaners I'll join them.
Funny how the snowflakes get unhappy when it's done to them

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I agree completely. The problem is that the govt won't really be able to get the best deals if it's thoughts and plans are open to scrutiny by all and sundry before negotiations start.

I agree again but if remoaners keep pushing and obstructing the process they may well force the govt to hard brexit asap rather than risk the process being adversely softened or scuppered completely.

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I'll leave this here again: New Lib Dem MP Skewered on Brexit

thats never going away is it

[Osem]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

thats never going away is it

It's no accident that the Lib-Dems are so pro-EU. They only hear what they want to hear, think the same way and employ the very same tactics as the Eurocrats. They commend the process when it suits but immediately call it into question when it doesn't then set about undermining anything or anyone who has the temerity to disagree. The truth is that they're only interested in the democratic process when it yields what they want - to hell with it when it doesn't.

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Yep. Guilty as charged. After all the names that brexiteers like myself were called after the vote (stupid, racist etc) , I figured that as I can't beat the remoaners I'll join them.
Funny how the snowflakes get unhappy when it's done to them

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I agree completely. The problem is that the govt won't really be able to get the best deals if it's thoughts and plans are open to scrutiny by all and sundry before negotiations start.

I agree again but if remoaners keep pushing and obstructing the process they may well force the govt to hard brexit asap rather than risk the process being adversely softened or scuppered completely.

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I'll leave this here again: New Lib Dem MP Skewered on Brexit

If people on this forum called you (specifically) stupid and/or racist, I would expect that to be reported. If one or two people on this forum tarred all Brexit supporters as racist and/or stupid, you would be justified in commenting back to them using your terms.

However, if you are taking it out on anyone here who disagrees with you because a few behaved badly, it would seem that the 'special snowflake' hat appears to be firmly perched on your head...

I thought most people grew out of the 'but they did it first' behaviour around adolescence...

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I thought most people grew out of the 'but they did it first' behaviour around adolescence...

I'm doing my best not to grow up :pp:
I'll try to behave myself henceforth

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

thats never going away is it

Yep, a masterclass in pinning down a remoaner. It does illustrate nicely how disingenuous some of them are being.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

I'm doing my best not to grow up :pp:
I'll try to behave myself henceforth

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Yep, a masterclass in pinning down a remoaner. It does illustrate nicely how disingenuous some of them are being.

some of them ? don't you mean most of them

[heero_yuy]

I do enjoy it when a politician hits the nail squarely on the thumb.

[Osem]

And the name calling isn't a recent phenomena purely linked purely to Brexit either. Anyone who's dared to challenge uncontrolled migration, for example, has long been fair game for all sorts of abuse from many of those on the left. Not much attempt at adult debate, despite regular promises that one could be had. No, plenty of shouting down, taunts and jibes directed at anyone who dared to voice their concerns by those who claim to abhor abuse and intimidation based on any form of stereotyping but don't mind resorting to it when it suits.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Osem

And the name calling isn't a recent phenomena purely linked purely to Brexit either. Anyone who's dared to challenge uncontrolled migration, for example, has long been fair game for all sorts of abuse from many of those on the left. Not much attempt at adult debate, despite regular promises that one could be had. No, plenty of shouting down, taunts and jibes directed at anyone who dared to voice their concerns by those who claim to abhor abuse and intimidation based on any form of stereotyping but don't mind resorting to it when it suits.

Indeed. Hence my shorter than usual fuse when talking to our liberal bretheren of late.
Goose/gander.......doesn't seem to work both ways

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Indeed. Hence my shorter than usual fuse when talking to our liberal bretheren of late.
Goose/gander.......doesn't seem to work both ways

In the interest of fairness, can we have some examples where you (and others), as individuals, have been subject to the name calling you are complaining and (over) reacting to?

We can see the large number of posts that you and others are doing this but I am willing to be convinced so where are these many posts that are doing the same thing to you?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by ianch99

In the interest of fairness, can we have some examples where you (and others), as individuals, have been subject to the name calling you are complaining and (over) reacting to?

We can see the large number of posts that you and others are doing this but I am willing to be convinced so where are these many posts that are doing the same thing to you?

its too distressing to bring it all up again .