Tivo V6 : Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by passingbat

Given that you know that if you have all 3 tuners active at a given time, OD won't be available to watch at that time. Therefore, simply choose another time to watch the OD show.


Don't limit the availability of three recordable tuners, when the solution to your problem is a simple one.

Well, given that I don't start viewing until about 8.30 pm and the three tuners are normally in use between 9 and 11 pm, this doesn't work for me. The three tuners are used because they are recording programmes I want to see and so limiting my recordings is not really what I want to do.

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Originally Posted by passingbat

Reducing your recordable tuners to two would make your problems worse. OD can be watched any time; scheduled shows have limited recording opportunities.


Your plan would cause more problems than you want it to solve.


Have you thought of looking at your planned recordings list before starting to watch an OD show?

I was talking about the new TiVo. I appreciate that two tuners would be worse than what we have now, but if we had 6, with one of them reserved for on demand, that would work for me.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well, given that I don't start viewing until about 8.30 pm and the three tuners are normally in use between 9 and 11 pm, this doesn't work for me. The three tuners are used because they are recording programmes I want to see and so limiting my recordings is not really what I want to do.

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You can check planned recordings at any time, even the day before when you start your TV viewing, or online. You seem to want to reduce the amount of recordable tuners, when there is no need to do so; a two minute check of planned recordings will solve your problem.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by passingbat

You can check planned recordings at any time, even the day before when you start your TV viewing, or online. You seem to want to reduce the amount of recordable tuners, when there is no need to do so; a two minute check of planned recordings will solve your problem.

This is no good for me as I would not be able to record everything that I wanted to watch. I am arguing for the new Tivo to have a dedicated tuner as this will be an encouragement to viewers to access on demand. I do acknowledge that with 6 tuners available, this problem is unlikely to arise very often.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

This is no good for me as I would not be able to record everything that I wanted to watch. .

With one less recordable tuner (the one dedicated to OD) you'd have even less chance! Your point makes no sense to me. The answer seems simple to me; you watch OD content when you have a tuner free, which is easy to check by looking at the planned recordings list

[Chrysalis]

If this is like skyq I wonder if this can be seen as impolite wifi behaviour by both companies, houses having multiple wifi transmitters possible also all transmitting on different channels could be seen as been greedy on the spectrum. I think the skyq is bad for that reason.

[Stephen]

I haven't checked but they may all use the same channel when boosting the signal.

[OLD BOY]

Given the slow performance issues with the existing Tivo box, I think it would help Virgin Media's reputation if they did the same as Sky as reported in this article.

It would be good if they could also do a deal for existing customers currently experiencing problems with their Tivos.

http://www.a516digital.com/2016/09/s...y-default.html

Sky Q by default

Sky is planning to make its recently launched SkyQ box the default receiver for new subscribers, with the older Sky+ service only made available in a reduced number of circumstances.

It comes as no surprise that Sky is moving new subscribers towards SkyQ, as it has made no secret that it wants to move away from its base of older Sky boxes, including those boxes that can only receive standard definition services.

Under the plans, all new Sky subscribers will be offered a 1TB SkyQ box as standard, with an option to use the older Sky+ only available under limited circumstances, such as when a subscriber has to use a communal satellite dish that hasn't got a SkyQ LNB, otherwise it won't be possible for new subscribers to choose a non-SkyQ box.

The default SkyQ box offered to customers will lack full functionality, unless an additional fee of £12 a month is paid, which would enable multiscreen streaming and access to Sky UHD. An upgrade to a 2TB Sky Q box will also be available.

For existing subscribers, nothing changes, although a voluntary option to upgrade to SkyQ is available. New subscribers to Sky are still being offered the choice of either Sky+ or SkyQ; an exact date for the switch to SkyQ hasn't been publicised.

[RichardCoulter]

That would be an excellent idea for VM to adopt.

[BenMcr]

I'm not quite sure why it warranted a whole news item about it for Sky Q.

It's pretty much a given that any new kit will come the default after period of time. For Virgin Media it's the same as the existing TiVo becoming the default TV option, and the Hub 3.0 now being the default kit for broadband.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

I'm not quite sure why it warranted a whole news item about it for Sky Q.

It's pretty much a given that any new kit will come the default after period of time. For Virgin Media it's the same as the existing TiVo becoming the default TV option, and the Hub 3.0 now being the default kit for broadband.

I think it is such a radical improvement and this has happened so quickly after launch.

Will VM do the same, do you think?

[RichardCoulter]

As software capability has improved in general, I wonder if the way that TiVo works could be modernised in some way?

I don't see why these days there can't be a feature where we tell it what we want it to record and it automatically calculates the best thing to do, be it move other recordings which have a repeat showing to record one off programmes or move the recording itself.

I don't mean just detecting the repeat showings as it does now and listing them in Planned Recordings, but a complete calculation as to how best to achieve the best outcome for every recording planned that mirrors the users wishes.

Each time there is a change, eg a show is taken off the EPG or a viewer chooses another programme or series to record, it could recalculate everything.

At the end (or during calculation) it may have to ask the user to make their mind up about what to record if it cannot resolve occasional issues eg four one off programmes all being shown at the same time.

I now have so many Series Links that I find it impossible to prioritise them, so being able to make a decision when anomalies are thrown up would be very useful.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

As software capability has improved in general, I wonder if the way that TiVo works could be modernised in some way?

I don't see why these days there can't be a feature where we tell it what we want it to record and it automatically calculates the best thing to do, be it move other recordings which have a repeat showing to record one off programmes or move the recording itself.

I don't mean just detecting the repeat showings as it does now and listing them in Planned Recordings, but a complete calculation as to how best to achieve the best outcome for every recording planned that mirrors the users wishes.

Each time there is a change, eg a show is taken off the EPG or a viewer chooses another programme or series to record, it could recalculate everything.

At the end (or during calculation) it may have to ask the user to make their mind up about what to record if it cannot resolve occasional issues eg four one off programmes all being shown at the same time.

I now have so many Series Links that I find it impossible to prioritise them, so being able to make a decision when anomalies are thrown up would be very useful.

Exactly how slow would you like the Tivo to be, Richard?

Maybe if it could pour you a nice cup of coffee and start the dinner while you're waiting for the circle to start spinning?

[jb66]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

As software capability has improved in general, I wonder if the way that TiVo works could be modernised in some way?

I don't see why these days there can't be a feature where we tell it what we want it to record and it automatically calculates the best thing to do, be it move other recordings which have a repeat showing to record one off programmes or move the recording itself.

I don't mean just detecting the repeat showings as it does now and listing them in Planned Recordings, but a complete calculation as to how best to achieve the best outcome for every recording planned that mirrors the users wishes.

Each time there is a change, eg a show is taken off the EPG or a viewer chooses another programme or series to record, it could recalculate everything.

At the end (or during calculation) it may have to ask the user to make their mind up about what to record if it cannot resolve occasional issues eg four one off programmes all being shown at the same time.

I now have so many Series Links that I find it impossible to prioritise them, so being able to make a decision when anomalies are thrown up would be very useful.

I just find the whole concept of recording out of date, everything should be on demand

[denphone]

Originally Posted by jb66

I just find the whole concept of recording out of date, everything should be on demand

Not sure that is ever going to happen anytime soon.

[Jong1]

If you want you can, pretty much, live this way already. It means watching stuff within 7 days of airing (catch up) or buying the right to watch whenever from iTunes/Amazon etc. If you are happy with that, great. But, if you want to be able to watch things that are broadcast at times of your choosing for no payment, recording will continue to be the only legal option.