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Old 23-08-2009, 21:18   #61
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There's no job where you would of had to declare a NOT guilty... It wouldn't even appear on an indepth CRB report..
i beg to differ if the offense that you were being prosecuted for was seen as being possibly relevant as part of a pattern or even a concern to the police despite your Not Guilty verdict it could still appear in the second part of the CRB that the employer gets

cant get at the relevant pages at the moment will try and find where the new umbrella agency has hidden them later

here is where they have hidden part of it lol why they need to move these pages around all the tome is beyond me

http://www.crb.gov.uk/guidance/rb_gu...orce_info.aspx

the information in this letter can contain information like previous court cases no mater if they were successful or not and even just suspicions of relevent behaviour or contacts
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Old 23-08-2009, 21:57   #62
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Hmmm, reading more into it "False allegations" i.e..events recorded by the police but which you have been found not guilty or not even been taken to court may be recorded on the CRB by the relevant police authority..

Now that's quite shocking... There is though an appeals process for it and the police are only supposed to disclose such matters which are directly relevant (i.e.. if applying to a school and you have information on the system that you were investigated for child abuse then they would add the investigation to the notes on the CRB)

I can see it's relevant to some applications but from what I've seen it's not foolproof
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Hmmm, reading more into it "False allegations" i.e..events recorded by the police but which you have been found not guilty or not even been taken to court may be recorded on the CRB by the relevant police authority..

Now that's quite shocking... There is though an appeals process for it and the police are only supposed to disclose such matters which are directly relevant (i.e.. if applying to a school and you have information on the system that you were investigated for child abuse then they would add the investigation to the notes on the CRB)

I can see it's relevant to some applications but from what I've seen it's not foolproof
No it's not fool proof, the changes Roger alludes to were brought in because of Ian Huntly and the bizarre thing is even if the checks were avaliable then he'd have still killed those girls, they went to a different school to the one he was working at and went to his house to visit his girlfriend.

The whole thing needs more than looking at, treating it as a business means the CRB are happy to provide details to anyone that asks and until people like Nidge take prospective employers to court and hit them in the pocket for abusing the system it'll continue.
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Old 24-08-2009, 00:39   #64
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Hmmm, reading more into it "False allegations" i.e..events recorded by the police but which you have been found not guilty or not even been taken to court may be recorded on the CRB by the relevant police authority..

Now that's quite shocking... There is though an appeals process for it and the police are only supposed to disclose such matters which are directly relevant (i.e.. if applying to a school and you have information on the system that you were investigated for child abuse then they would add the investigation to the notes on the CRB)

I can see it's relevant to some applications but from what I've seen it's not foolproof
the slightly worrying thing ( though i have yet to see irrelevant information on a CRB ) is that that extra form i get i cant tell you about in any case so you would not know that the information had been given as it only goes on the employers copy and is not sent to the applicant on their copy
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the slightly worrying thing ( though i have yet to see irrelevant information on a CRB ) is that that extra form i get i cant tell you about in any case so you would not know that the information had been given as it only goes on the employers copy and is not sent to the applicant on their copy
Yep I saw that and it's even an offence for an employer to divulge that information to anyone else INCLUDING the person who the CRB is about

Yet another mess the goverment has rolled out..
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No it's not fool proof, the changes Roger alludes to were brought in because of Ian Huntly and the bizarre thing is even if the checks were avaliable then he'd have still killed those girls, they went to a different school to the one he was working at and went to his house to visit his girlfriend.

The whole thing needs more than looking at, treating it as a business means the CRB are happy to provide details to anyone that asks and until people like Nidge take prospective employers to court and hit them in the pocket for abusing the system it'll continue.

tend to agree there was a whole thread on about someone wanting virgin to crb all its sales staff this it was never meant for it is only supposed to be used for those with access to children and vulnerable adults and sometimes for those who will be in jobs like bank managers where they have access to lots of money

but many employers seem to be trying to use any contact with the public as an excuse to get one done hence the advice i gave of telling a prospective employer anything that they may feel could be in some way to do with job as even though your copy of a CRB doesn't show it it may well be on the employers copy you not telling them wont go down well

i would suggest to that any one asked to have a CRB done asks why and i they feel its not appropriate to contact the CRB and ask them why its needed for that job they may find that they cant justify it

i would suggest any one asked to do one just to be in sales is being asked only so the employer can find out more and not because it is needed for the job as i cant see that it would lead to unmonitored access to the vulnerable groups all the time
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There's no job where you would of had to declare a NOT guilty... It wouldn't even appear on an indepth CRB report..
Applying for the Police you have to declare *any* charges etc. regardless of the outcome. I'd imagine a few other other jobs are the same.
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