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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Sorry, in connection with the article I posted I meant there's now a debate in the Brexit camp about trade deals full stop, not just with the EU.
Do we:
- Go for Economists for Free Trade's approach. They want no tariffs. But their Patrick Minford has said this will cause the end of UK manufacturing.
- Go for a more interventionist, protectionist economy with tariffs which is likely to leave the country a lot poorer.
In context, polling by Ipsos Mori found that 45% of Britons thought single market access should be prioritised, while 39% prioritised control of immigration. Free trade is linked to granting work visas to trading partners. India has already made clear it would like more immigration into the UK as part of any new deal and other countries are likely to want this too. How will this go down with the electorate?
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I heard Patrick Minford some time ago on the Daily Politics putting forwaed his analysis. As far as I'm concerned, he's just another economist with another view. Brexit showed us how much we should trust Economists.
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Free trade is linked to granting work visas to trading partners. India has already made clear it would like more immigration into the UK as part of any new deal and other countries are likely to want this too..
So you're now trying a new scare tactic; if you have free trade you have to accept more immigration. Do you remainers ever stop? You seem to think Britain will be so weak after we finally leave the EU that we will be over a barrel as far as trade deals go and agree to anything. I completely disagree.
Britain's immigration policy should be controlled immigration; i.e. people coming to our country to fulfil a specific job or skill need. Not an immigration quota tied to a trade deal. The latter would defeat one of the main tenants of Brexit.
I heard Patrick Minford some time ago on the Daily Politics putting forwaed his analysis. As far as I'm concerned, he's just another economist with another view. Brexit showed us how much we should trust Economists.
So you're now trying a new scare tactic; if you have free trade you have to accept more immigration. Do you remainers ever stop? You seem to think Britain will be so weak after we finally leave the EU that we will be over a barrel as far as trade deals go and agree to anything. I completely disagree.
Britain's immigration policy should be controlled immigration; i.e. people coming to our country to fulfil a specific job or skill need. Not an immigration quota tied to a trade deal. The latter would defeat one of the main tenants of Brexit.
No one's scaring anyone unless people are easily scared. Read the article - there's a debate going on in the Brexit camp on free trade v protectionism. It's an important debate to have. To read the article, google Brexit campaigners shift focus to global free trade
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
No one's scaring anyone unless people are easily scared. Read the article - there's a debate going on in the Brexit camp on free trade v protectionism. It's an important debate to have. To read the article, google Brexit campaigners shift focus to global free trade
Let's look at the source; a pro-remain newspaper, who have links to the Bilderberg Group. Wow! Such a surprise that they are trying to sow seeds of disharmony amongst leave supporters.
I'll put that article on my completely ignore list.
Let's look at the source; a pro-remain newspaper, who have links to the Bilderberg Group. Wow! Such a surprise that they are trying to sow seeds of disharmony amongst leave supporters.
I'll put that article on my completely ignore list.
Always worth reading sources outside your comfort zone. Keep it quiet, but I've been known to read the Ukipgraph and Mail.
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Re: Brexit
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Always worth reading sources outside your comfort zone. Keep it quiet, but I've been known to read the Ukipgraph and Mail.
I did actually read the article, not just ignore it. When you know where a publication is coming from, discernment of what is really going with an article is much easier.
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Keep it quiet, but I've been known to read the Ukipgraph and Mail.
And for your next 'Walk on the wild side'...... US Fox News via Youtube... just try not to throw things at your computer, they're not cheap to replace!
Let's look at the source; a pro-remain newspaper, who have links to the Bilderberg Group. Wow! Such a surprise that they are trying to sow seeds of disharmony amongst leave supporters.
I'll put that article on my completely ignore list.
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They just can't bear to let us go. Doesn't it just bring a tear to your eye....
And Juncker wants us back.
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Mr Juncker, the most senior official in Brussels, said he did not like Brexit because he wanted "to be in the same boat as the British".
"The day will come when the British will re-enter the boat, I hope," he said following an EU summit
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Former UKIP leader Nigel Farage said: "The ship will have sunk by then"
Lovers of a hard Brexit and good value chocolate be warned - you can't have your chocolate and eat it!
"A top Mars executive says that if the UK leaves the EU without a trade deal it will result in higher prices and threaten jobs."
"In simple terms, if the UK and the EU fail to agree on a new preferential deal, it will be to the detriment of all. Yet that realisation may not be sufficient to produce an agreement." http://news.sky.com/story/why-mars-b...-deal-10796207 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rd-Brexit.html
Lovers of a hard Brexit and good value chocolate be warned - you can't have your chocolate and eat it!
"A top Mars executive says that if the UK leaves the EU without a trade deal it will result in higher prices and threaten jobs."
"In simple terms, if the UK and the EU fail to agree on a new preferential deal, it will be to the detriment of all. Yet that realisation may not be sufficient to produce an agreement." http://news.sky.com/story/why-mars-b...-deal-10796207 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rd-Brexit.html
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EU leaders prepare for Theresa May to trigger Article 50 within days
Brexiteers' hopes are raised as the Prime Minister schedules a major Commons statement on Tuesday.
Lovers of a hard Brexit and good value chocolate be warned - you can't have your chocolate and eat it!
"A top Mars executive says that if the UK leaves the EU without a trade deal it will result in higher prices and threaten jobs."
"In simple terms, if the UK and the EU fail to agree on a new preferential deal, it will be to the detriment of all. Yet that realisation may not be sufficient to produce an agreement." http://news.sky.com/story/why-mars-b...-deal-10796207 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rd-Brexit.html
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