M62 police shooting was 'assassination', Mohammed Yaqub's family say

Arthurgray50@blu · 05-01-2017, 21:58

http://news.sky.com/story/man-shot-b...chest-10718948

I am totally amazed at this article, and the uproar in public opinion as to what happened. And for the public outcry of saying ' Murdered by Police'

I have several opinions of this. The police NO MATTER what force they are. They do not do this type of thing lightly.

Senior officers would have sort Intelligence on the guy, and his followers. And this would have taken months to carry out the Op. I have read in the Yorkshire Newspapers. That he wasn't an angel, and someone tried to shoot him last year. And he was cleared of Attempted Murder

And that he was well known villain to police.
They found a loaded gun in his car. What was that for protection, or for something else

I don't know anyone else thinks. And look forward to comments.

Mr K · 05-01-2017, 22:03

None of us were thankfully there Arthur, so don't think anyone can comment until the IPCC have done their investigation.

adzii_nufc · 05-01-2017, 23:47

To be fair he's telling the truth though. They'd have plenty of intel.

Already stinks of a typical, he was an 'angel' story. The type of Angel that carries firearms in his vehicle.

**Paul** · 06-01-2017, 01:27

He was clearly an armed criminal, and probably pulled his gun out when cornered, they would not have shot him unless he was at the very least brandishing it.

I love the bit where they say "a non-police issue firearm" was found in the car. Since when did the police start issuing out firearms to the public ?

06-01-2017, 01:28

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Originally Posted by Paul M

He was clearly an armed criminal, and probably pulled his gun out when cornered, they would not have shot him unless he was at the very least brandishing it.

I love the bit where they say "a non-police issue firearm" was found in the car. Since when did the police start issuing out firearms to the public ?

Where's the queue and how long is the wait

swoop101 · 06-01-2017, 06:46

oh yeah, he was an angel ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...calm-protests/

Mr K · 06-01-2017, 08:07

Interestingly the police weren't wearing body cameras, which is common in W Yorkshire. This might have cleared things up a lot more quickly.

**Chris** · 06-01-2017, 08:36

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Originally Posted by Paul M

He was clearly an armed criminal, and probably pulled his gun out when cornered, they would not have shot him unless he was at the very least brandishing it.

I love the bit where they say "a non-police issue firearm" was found in the car. Since when did the police start issuing out firearms to the public ?

Unfortunately some yooman-rites campaigners like to insinuate that the police "issue" firearms posthumously to people they have just killed, in order to justify the shooting. c.f. Mark Duggan, another fallen angel who definitely didn't invite his own fate by being armed in the back of a taxi.

Stephen · 06-01-2017, 08:38

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Originally Posted by swoop101

oh yeah, he was an angel ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...calm-protests/

Reading that paints a totally different picture of hun and not a nice one.

Police wouldn't have opened fire without good reason. He had a weapon on him and they knew that. If he refused to get out the car or was seen to be holding or reaching for it then they will have done the right thing.

**Hugh** · 06-01-2017, 08:52

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Interestingly the police weren't wearing body cameras, which is common in W Yorkshire. This might have cleared things up a lot more quickly.

They were in plain clothes - having a harness mounted camera might have blown that look...

Even if they did wear them, it would have to be helmet or shoulder mounted*, and once again, sort of give the game away...

*if it was worn worn where uniformed police wear them (right of left side of chest, on a harness), when the officer had the rifle in the ready/firing position (butt resting against shoulder), this would obscure the camera.

Osem · 06-01-2017, 09:29

So many saints, so many guns...

Derek · 06-01-2017, 09:50

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Interestingly the police weren't wearing body cameras, which is common in W Yorkshire. This might have cleared things up a lot more quickly.

As pointed out armed surveillance teams tend not to advertise they are Police officers and any form of overt camera would ruin their 'covertness'

Considering armed stops are done every day without incident tends to suggest that the deceased wasn't complying and his actions made shooting a certainty.

Osem · 06-01-2017, 09:55

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Originally Posted by Derek

As pointed out armed surveillance teams tend not to advertise they are Police officers and any form of overt camera would ruin their 'covertness'

Considering armed stops are done every day without incident tends to suggest that the deceased wasn't complying and his actions made shooting a certainty.

Maybe they could disguise said cameras to look like parrots on their shoulders...

Derek · 06-01-2017, 11:18

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Originally Posted by Osem

Maybe they could disguise said cameras to look like parrots on their shoulders...

The main thing that unites the 'why weren't they wearing cameras' brigade is their total lack of knowledge on how Policing, surveillance and firearms work and a similar lack of common sense.

Osem · 06-01-2017, 11:39

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Originally Posted by Derek

The main thing that unites the 'why weren't they wearing cameras' brigade is their total lack of knowledge on how Policing, surveillance and firearms work and a similar lack of common sense.

Yes I'd noticed that. The same level of insight which leads them to ask questions like 'why weren't warning shots fired first?...'