06-11-2006, 00:41
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Re: Saddam To Be Hanged
Have not had a read of the posts above so that i am not influenced in anyway with what has been posted.
My on this.
About time. If only so that there can be some form of closer. What he did to his people is unforgivable and i certainly agree with the death sentence just for the crime of gassing women and children.
He shouted about justice when the sentence was given. What about the justice for all those he had tortured, Hanged, shot. Where was there justice. ?
Good riddance to him and i hope they do it slow to make him suffer.
BTW i have my flame proof jacket on and my red rep return button ready .
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06-11-2006, 01:21
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Re: Saddam To Be Hanged
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Originally Posted by SMG
There are some people on this earth who need to be executed. Saddam is one of them. Had he been killed upon capture, millions of pounds would have been saved, & the rabble who follow him would have dissipated. Now, all the Iraqi`s will get is reprisals & much more killing.
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With respect, this is one of things I have a problem with in life - when people feel they are qualified enough to know who should be killed.
I`m aware that, not everyone shares my views, thats what lifes all about, but there are people who, in my opinion, need to be killed. Mass or multiple murderers, premeditated murder, child (Paedophile) killers, who, had they been executed for their crimes, would not have served a prison term, only to be released, to kill again. Saddam, & anyone else who thinks they can commit mass murder, needs to be killed, we may be showing our compassion by letting these animals live, but who is accountable when they escape or are released, only to murder again.
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06-11-2006, 01:22
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Re: Saddam To Be Hanged
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BBC were also reporting it as an American Backed court.
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That's a political comment (or insinuation) that the BBC should possibly not be making. They could as easily say that the Old Bailey is American backed, insofar as the US respects the rule of law in this country and actively participates in the military defence of this country.
The BBC is trying to imply that this may not be Iraqis dealing with an Iraqi but puppets taking care of American business. Given that few Iraqis have any affection for Saddam, personally I think he is lucky to get a rope and not a lynch mob.
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06-11-2006, 02:16
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Re: Saddam To Be Hanged
The thing is we are all putting our own slant based on our own western democratic position..easy for armchair critics to pass judgment.However it's not our country and not our judicial system.
Just think though..Saddam has been treated in a way that he NEVER afforded to the many still fully uncounted fellow Iraqis who never even got a trial public or otherwise.
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06-11-2006, 03:07
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Re: Saddam To Be Hanged
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Let him who has not sinned cast the first stone
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Cool i'll let my youngest child throw it
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06-11-2006, 04:29
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Re: Saddam To Be Hanged
Perhaps Saddam would have done well to remember this in the decades gone by:
Be good to those on your way up, as you never know when you'll meet them on the way down.
And Incongnitas - we are not passing judgement from the armchair, we are merely commenting on the verdict given by the people who lived through his regime for crimes that have been proven as being commit by Saddam Hussain. There is a major difference there, we are certainly not just 'putting our own slant based on our own western democratic position'. Here in our western democratic positions, we no longer carry out capital punishment, yet the majority appear to be supporting the sentance. Surely if we put our slant on it, we would all be trying to stay 'PC' or whatever by yapping on about how it goes against his human rights. He does deserve to die as punishment for his atrocities, so let's hope it happens.
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06-11-2006, 09:32
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Re: Saddam To Be Hanged
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That's a political comment (or insinuation) that the BBC should possibly not be making.
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sounds unlike the bbc. more likely imo the bbc said that some people believe/claim the court was american backed.
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06-11-2006, 11:31
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Re: Saddam To Be Hanged
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Originally Posted by Incognitas
The thing is we are all putting our own slant based on our own western democratic position..easy for armchair critics to pass judgment.However it's not our country and not our judicial system.
Just think though..Saddam has been treated in a way that he NEVER afforded to the many still fully uncounted fellow Iraqis who never even got a trial public or otherwise.
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from a BBC page
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6118590.stm
" In the past, you could be killed in a bath of acid for insulting the president. I have met a man sentenced to death in that way for writing a phone number on a banknote with Saddam's face on it.
His prospective executioners listened to his story, sympathised with him, and merely dipped him in the bath for a few seconds. He had some of the most hideous scars I have ever seen."
I don't believe in Capital Punishment (as it is difficult to undo the mistakes), but it is hard to feel sympathy for anyone who can authorise this sort of behaviour.
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06-11-2006, 11:54
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Re: Saddam To Be Hanged
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You need to examine the amount of people Saddam killed. Not to mention most of the people killed the US/UK forces were terrorists. Unlike Saddam who gassed his own people.
So sick of these attempts to make Blair and Bush worse than Saddam.
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Apparently over 30% of the Iraqi civilians killed, have met their fate at the hands of coalition forces and who knows how many tens/ hundreds of thousands that is.
I did hear the president on the radio saying that this would usher in a new dawn, that they wouldn't discover anymore mass graves, which tbh I found a bit perplexing given the current climate over there!
My own view is that whilst he is undoubtedly guilty, what purpose does executing him serve, if he was the terrorist/ insurgence figure head and attacks were being carried out in his name I could perhaps see the point of it and in executing him they run the risk of fanning the flames still further Imo we have made many mistakes in Iraq and this is probably going to be another.
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06-11-2006, 12:02
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Re: Saddam To Be Hanged
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Originally Posted by foreverwar
from a BBC page
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6118590.stm
" In the past, you could be killed in a bath of acid for insulting the president. I have met a man sentenced to death in that way for writing a phone number on a banknote with Saddam's face on it.
His prospective executioners listened to his story, sympathised with him, and merely dipped him in the bath for a few seconds. He had some of the most hideous scars I have ever seen."
I don't believe in Capital Punishment (as it is difficult to undo the mistakes), but it is hard to feel sympathy for anyone who can authorise this sort of behaviour.
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And to think millions of people marched around the world to keep this man in power.
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06-11-2006, 12:05
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Re: Saddam To Be Hanged
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And to think millions of people marched around the world to keep this man in power.
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no they didnt.
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06-11-2006, 12:06
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Re: Saddam To Be Hanged
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sounds unlike the bbc.
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Sounds exactly like the BBC to me, after all, when the American Engineers were captured at the start of the war, the BBC made comments that if they were willing to tell the Iraqi's on television what towns they were from then they were likely to be willing to tell operational secrets.
The BBC makes me sick sometimes with it's lack of impartiality and just plain poor jounalism.
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And to think millions of people marched around the world to keep this man in power.
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I know, terrible isn't it?
You still get people saying "but why wasn't diplomacy used?" which just blatently shows they haven't a clue what they're talking about.
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06-11-2006, 12:12
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Re: Saddam To Be Hanged
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Sounds exactly like the BBC to me, after all, when the American Engineers were captured at the start of the war, the BBC made comments that if they were willing to tell the Iraqi's on television what towns they were from then they were likely to be willing to tell operational secrets.
The BBC makes me sick sometimes with it's lack of impartiality and just plain poor jounalism.
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quite often the bcc reports claims (from various sides) and because they do they are accused of being partial i do take issue with the increasing way they editorialise things and in particular interview their own correspondent but by and large i think they do an excellent job of providing an overall picture. i have also seen nothing online to suggest partiality in this instance.
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I know, terrible isn't it?
You still get people saying "but why wasn't diplomacy used?" which just blatently shows they haven't a clue what they're talking about.
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i marched not in suppoort of saddam, but against the war precisely for the reasons that are playing out now.
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06-11-2006, 12:13
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Re: Saddam To Be Hanged
[Quote:Originally Posted by Xaccers
Sounds exactly like the BBC to me, after all, when the American Engineers were captured at the start of the war, the BBC made comments that if they were willing to tell the Iraqi's on television what towns they were from then they were likely to be willing to tell operational secrets.
The BBC makes me sick sometimes with it's lack of impartiality and just plain poor jounalism.
The BBC must be doing something right - everybody (left, right, liberal, libertarian) think they are biased against their viewpoint.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_New...ns_of_BBC_News
"The BBC is regularly accused by the government of the day of bias in favour of the opposition and, by the opposition, of bias in favour of the government. Similarly, during times of war, the BBC is often accused by the UK government, or by strong supporters of British military campaigns, of being overly sympathetic to the view of the enemy. This gave rise, in 1991 during the first Gulf War, to the satirical name "Baghdad Broadcasting Corporation". Conversely, some of those who style themselves anti-establishment in the United Kingdom or who oppose foreign wars have accused the BBC of pro-establishment bias or of refusing to give an outlet to "anti-war" voices. Some have argued that a current of anti-BBC thinking exists in many parts of the political spectrum and that, since the BBC's theoreticalimpartiality means they will broadcast many views and opinions, people will see the bias they wish to see. This argument is buttressed by the fact that the BBC is frequently accused of bias by all opinions in a dispute."
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06-11-2006, 12:14
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Re: Saddam To Be Hanged
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You still get people saying "but why wasn't diplomacy used?" which just blatently shows they haven't a clue what they're talking about.
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Hmmm seemed to be working considering that since the first Gulf war he didn't have any wmd's, wasn't a threat to his neighbours, didn't harbour terrorists and according to Amnesty International wasn't of significant threat to his own people.
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