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Old 30-08-2017, 02:02   #1966
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Re: Eurozone will collapse...

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They buy stuff from us keeping people in jobs so why you want other countries to fail is bewildering.
We'll feel the ramifications if it does fail pretty much the same as if we were still in the club
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Old 30-08-2017, 06:25   #1967
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Re: Eurozone will collapse...

The Euro might fail but people have been predicting it's imminent collapse for the last 5/6 years, for now it's escaped the immediate peril it was in a few years ago.
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Old 30-08-2017, 09:20   #1968
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The Euro might fail but people have been predicting it's imminent collapse for the last 5/6 years, for now it's escaped the immediate peril it was in a few years ago.
That may be true for now, but the Euro is inherently unstable, and problems will arise in the future, sad to say. Only central control over fiscal policy throughout the EU will resolve the issues, and there is a lot of opposition to this obvious solution.
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Old 30-08-2017, 09:27   #1969
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Re: Eurozone will collapse...

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They buy stuff from us keeping people in jobs so why you want other countries to fail is bewildering.
Country? No. Currency keeping a country in penury? Yes. Greece will be better off once it crashes out of the Euro.
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Re: Eurozone will collapse...

The fundamental problems of the Euro straightjacket remain and aren't going away any time soon. For now Brexit is a nice diversion for some people but when it's done and dusted (and quite possibly before that) the spotlight will once again fall on the inherent problems facing the Euro and the markets will act accordingly as they always do.

The only way Greece can hope to prosper is to get out of the Euro and start rebuilding its economy and it can't do the latter being bogged down with so much debt and being constrained by EU financial and political policy.
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Re: Eurozone will collapse...

Brexit has been a godsend in that regard for the EU everything has been moved squarely to the back boiler due to brexit and it's allowing some wriggle room but not much and many southern european nations are still circling the economic drain.
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Old 30-08-2017, 18:07   #1972
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Re: Eurozone will collapse...

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The only way Greece can hope to prosper is to get out of the Euro and start rebuilding its economy and it can't do the latter being bogged down with so much debt and being constrained by EU financial and political policy.
Greece grew faster than we did in Q1 and is anticipated to grow 2/3rds faster in Q2 and at twice the rate in Q3. A pattern that I very much hope doesn't continue.

That growth is of course from a very low point. They had their opportunity to leave the Euro and declined. The Eurozone have built up extensive shock absorbers in the interim.

Inside the zone their only option was extensive internal devaluation which it seems is what they've done and their economy is on the mend, with caveats due to the massive public debt.

Horrendous mess though
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Brexit has been a godsend in that regard for the EU everything has been moved squarely to the back boiler due to brexit and it's allowing some wriggle room but not much and many southern european nations are still circling the economic drain.
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