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Old 17-03-2017, 22:55   #2746
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

To her credit, Theresa May was last year talking about the issues of Brexit and Scottish devolution...

"If Brexit isn’t fatal to the European Union, we might find that it is fatal to the Union with Scotland. The SNP have already said that in the event that Britain votes to leave but Scotland votes to remain in the EU, they will press for another Scottish independence referendum.
"And the opinion polls show consistently that the Scottish people are more likely to be in favour of EU membership than the people of England and Wales.
“If the people of Scotland are forced to choose between the United Kingdom and the European Union we do not know what the result would be.
"But only a little more than eighteen months after the referendum that kept the United Kingdom together, I do not want to see the country I love at risk of dismemberment once more.
"I do not want the people of Scotland to think that English Eurosceptics put their dislike of Brussels ahead of our bond with Edinburgh and Glasgow.
"I do not want the European Union to cause the destruction of an older and much more precious Union, the Union between England and Scotland…
“We should remain in the EU.”
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Old 18-03-2017, 03:30   #2747
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Despite the differences the snp love to play on there is a far better relationship between the members of the UK then scotland will ever get in the EU and the EU certainly won't treat scotland as beneficially as the UK union does. I think most scots realise that and even if they get another vote it will be to remain in the union especially as the snp cannot manipulate revenue from oil to pay for all the unicorns and rainbows like last time. All things considered the better future for scotland lies with the union not the EU.
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Old 18-03-2017, 06:19   #2748
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Just like the UK situation,
Imagine if the region of London got a deal to remain in the EU.
The rest of the UK economy would be totally ****ED!
Scotland would probably be better off on WTO rules if that happened.

The recent referendum announcement was gamesmanship IMHO, they knew Theresa May wouldn't allow it so they announced it at that point to force her to deny it could happen.

If the EU negotiations go badly (ie. NO DEAL) like it seems, then there will be a YES vote almost guaranteed.
When ever they allow it in the longer term.

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Old 18-03-2017, 10:27   #2749
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

I don't see a yes vote guaranteed unless the price of oil goes and stays a lot higher. Even then, the reality of the last few years will have shown the Scottish people just how volatile their economic situation would be as an independent nation. Yes hearts can rule heads but there'll be no coming back from a yes vote and I think most Scots will know that and prefer the security of being part of the union.
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Old 18-03-2017, 14:32   #2750
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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Steady on old chap. The SNP might not be everyone's cup of tea south of the border but Scots are fantastic people; we should distinguish between the political ambitions of a minority and the integrity, bravery and decency of the Scottish people as a whole whom we should all celebrate and value.
Thanks for your comment, I am ashamed that the way the SNP are behaving I am proud of Scotland and Britain, I would hate a division in the U K,
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Old 18-03-2017, 15:12   #2751
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Thanks for your comment, I am ashamed that the way the SNP are behaving I am proud of Scotland and Britain, I would hate a division in the U K,
You're welcome.

Every once in a while we all get too embroiled in all the political claptrap forgetting that the Scots, English, Welsh and Irish are bonded by blood and shared values.

That which God has brought together let no man (or woman) put asunder.
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Old 18-03-2017, 15:47   #2752
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Interesting point someone made on another forum, 70% of Scotland's trade is with the rest of UK. if we get a bad deal with the EU and Scotland joins the EU they they will also have that bad deal.
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Old 18-03-2017, 23:24   #2753
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

I can't stand that woman.
she always looks like when Ant and Dec have their faces done for disguise.
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Old 19-03-2017, 00:58   #2754
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GARY!!! You're back. Yay!
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Old 19-03-2017, 14:16   #2755
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GARY!!! You're back. Yay!
I've only been given a couple of days and I've got to go back

She really does look like someone in disguise.

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Old 19-03-2017, 16:32   #2756
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Scottish people do not want to lose their either, might not be much in value just now, but it is still our currency, It will go up again
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Old 19-03-2017, 19:04   #2757
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

She reckons Scotland will keep the pound, next thing she'll want to keep the NHS and we will pay for at and it wouldn't surprise me if she even went down the EU argument of you owe us 50 billion in future commitments lol absolute crackpot.
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

It will be interesting to see what economic arguments they come up with in the next vote although to be honest i don't expect the snp to actually campaign on the issue's i think her timing has shown their strategy. She intends to wage an independence campaign based on England voting to exit the EU and overriding the views of scotland it will be more venemous anti english campaigning wrapped up in the scottish flag making it more against​ fighting the old enemy and gaining their freedom not mentioning that in getting the freedom she will be applying right away to join the EU.
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Up to the Scottish people. No problem letting them have a vote, if we are confident of the result, surely?
Scotland voted to remain, the goalposts have moved significantly since the last independence vote. No matter what you think of Nicola, there is no justification to stop them having a vote. The SNP have an overwhelming mandate in Scotland. Brexit is going to mean the end of the UK, sooner or later. Little England will be very little.
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Up to the Scottish people. No problem letting them have a vote, if we are confident of the result, surely?
Scotland voted to remain, the goalposts have moved significantly since the last independence vote. No matter what you think of Nicola, there is no justification to stop them having a vote. The SNP have an overwhelming mandate in Scotland. Brexit is going to mean the end of the UK, sooner or later. Little England will be very little.
Scotland had their vote you can't just have a vote for every little thing. So they have another once in a life time vote what next another once in a life time vote because they don't like the new prime minister or they put the price of petrol up etc.

Scotland is part of the UK they had their say even though most voted remain does that mean we split up each county that voted remain and didn't get what they want and elect a parliment for each one and they all go independant.

Or

Do we wait for another Scotish leader that desides they want to leave the UK how long do we actually let this go on for?
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