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Old 12-03-2017, 10:31   #511
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Or consults his former masters, Bilderberg attendees, EU supporters, Goldman Sachs? Why wasn't that guy fired after the referendum?
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Old 12-03-2017, 12:15   #512
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You seem to accidentally overlook some interesting developments 1andy1. Here's one, for example, from Lord Mervyn King, former Governor of the Bank of England (the one before the current Governor who predicts interest rates by sticking in his thumb and pulling out a plum):

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Kursk, have you changed your tune on the Mail? Only the other week you were bemoaning the fact that whilst the Mail was your daily read and represented your views, people may be reluctant to share its wisdom due its ban by Wikipedia?
In criticising me for sharing a link to the first page of the Mail, can we now take it that you no longer trust the paper either?
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Old 12-03-2017, 12:20   #513
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Kursk, have you changed your tune on the Mail? Only the other week you were bemoaning the fact that whilst the Mail was your daily read and represented your views, people may be reluctant to share its wisdom due its ban by Wikipedia?
In criticising me for sharing a link to the first page of the Mail, can we now take it that you no longer trust the paper either?
it's not about trust it's about hypocrisy

"the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case"


hypocrisy: the behavior of people who do things that they tell other people not to do
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Thing is you seem to be confusing the entire World with the EU, ok so the EU goes west... fine, what about the other 100+ Countries, do you think we won't negotiate something with anyone else?

So there's a few less Audis/BMW's etc on the road... it's not like we'll all be riding pushbikes - and won't it impact those Countries who would have sold us said items more?

Quite apart from anything else, we've had doom laden 'experts' tell us we'd be farked since pretty much day +1 after the vote and they've been made to look pretty stupid now already.


I'm reasonably sure anything we get currently from the EU there will be other places queuing up to sell us their stuff.

to quote a Mr D. Vader 'I find your lack of faith... disturbing'

Our country will really go under if we all convince ourselves we're all as useless as we're made out to be, some of us remember a time pre EU & we seemed to roll just fine.

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Seriously.. Seriously? Yes. Stop. We're going to lose roaming phone charges, lets abort! ffs.

All of the above will affect the EU (or those touristy type places in the eu) far more than us. You just don't go there, and go somewhere else (who do you think suffers more) I'll say it again, and keep saying it. The World is BIGGER than the eu. There is no shortage of nice places to goad see outside of the eu. Any kind of 'punitive crap they pull will in the end, affect them far more than us.
David Cameron was rightly criticised for not planning for a leave vote. Theresa May is rightly being criticised for not planning for a lack of agreement with the EU.
We need to learn lessons from the referendum vote and plan for both eventualities. That's why our elected representatives are concerned.
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the national interest at risk by failing to prepare for the “real prospect” that two years of Brexit negotiations could end with no deal.
The criticism – and warnings of dire consequences – is levelled at May by the all-party foreign affairs select committee only days before she is expected to trigger article 50 – the formal process that will end the UK’s 44-year membership of the European Union.
After a detailed inquiry into what would happen if Brexit negotiations failed, the Tory chairman of the committee, Crispin Blunt, a supporter of leaving the EU, said: “The possibility of ‘no deal’ is real enough to require the government to plan how to deal with it.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...cle-50-theresa

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it's not about trust it's about hypocrisy

"the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case"

hypocrisy: the behavior of people who do things that they tell other people not to do
The question Parliament is raising is - why haven't we prepared for no agreement with the EU. I appreciate that this is an uncomfortable subject for some but it's an important one for our future.

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Or consults his former masters, Bilderberg attendees, EU supporters, Goldman Sachs? Why wasn't that guy fired after the referendum?
Maybe there was no one in place to fire him?
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David Cameron was rightly criticised for not planning for a leave vote. Theresa May is rightly being criticised for not planning for a lack of agreement with the EU.
We need to learn lessons from the referendum vote and plan for both eventualities. That's why our elected representatives are concerned.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...cle-50-theresa

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The question Parliament is raising is - why haven't we prepared for no agreement with the EU. I appreciate that this is an uncomfortable subject for some but it's an important one for our future.
and the point i was making was newspaper hypocrisy i appreciate that this is an uncomfortable subject and you may wish to skirt around it
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Wibble

Wobble? Is this a new game? A NWO code word perhaps? A shortened version of the George W Bush statement, "An angel that "rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm" Are the Elites planning an attack?



Truly sorry Hugh; I tried to resist.
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and the point i was making was newspaper hypocrisy i appreciate that this is an uncomfortable subject and you may wish to skirt around it
Ask me a straight question and I'll give a straight answer.
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Maybe there was no one in place to fire him?

Where's Alan Sugar or Arnie when you need them!? Though I suspect both of them would have kept him on.
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Wobble? Is this a new game? A NWO code word perhaps? A shortened version of the George W Bush statement, "An angel that "rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm" Are the Elites planning an attack?



Truly sorry Hugh; I tried to resist.
I love it when the Most Sekrit Conspiracy NWO has an official website, with a list of Committee Members, FAQs, and list of what was discussed at their Sekrit World Domination Conspiracy conclaves, and lists of participants...

http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/index.html

http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/st...committee.html

http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/conferences.html

http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/participants.html

I wonder if Mervin King still attends these meetings...
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I love it when the Most Sekrit Conspiracy NWO has an official website, with a list of Committee Members, FAQs, and list of what was discussed at their Sekrit World Domination Conspiracy conclaves, and lists of participants...

http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/index.html

http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/st...committee.html

http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/conferences.html

http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/participants.html

I wonder if Mervin King still attends these meetings...

The meetings aren't secret. It's what is actually said in the discussions that is secret. Surely you knew that already?
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In 5 years time this is going to be a fascinating thread to read..
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The meetings aren't secret. It's what is actually said in the discussions that is secret. Surely you knew that already?
But surely if they were running a Sekrit Conspiracy™ to rule the world, they wouldn't publicise the meetings or the attendees?

Shouldn't they be meeting in a hollowed-out volcano, with a trap-door bridge over the shark tank?
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Kursk, have you changed your tune on the Mail? Only the other week you were bemoaning the fact that whilst the Mail was your daily read and represented your views, people may be reluctant to share its wisdom due its ban by Wikipedia?
In criticising me for sharing a link to the first page of the Mail, can we now take it that you no longer trust the paper either?
Nope, I like the Mail and I read it nearly every day. I know that many here don't hold it in much regard but my point is that to be truly representative, a full spectrum of popular curent opinion better serves forum discussions. The ban by Wikipedia has nothing to do with it; I don't regard Wiki or the Mail as the definitive factual source but both contribute to my understanding of an overall picture.

I wasn't criticising you for sharing a Mail link btw; in fact, I have noticed and am grateful that you have diversified your sourcing to include Mail references. We cannot ignore the popular press, believing that it is in some way an embarrassment to the intelligentsia; everyone's point of view matters as does everyone's vote. There are people in politics who still don't seem to want to grasp this.

I was simply making the point that, whichever sourcing you choose, it is invariably negative and perhaps especially so where Brexit is concerned to the point it would seem, of careful selectivity. On the forum that simply translates into polarising opinion and we need to move on from that imho.

Apart from anything else attrition won't change anyone's mind about anything and we won't find the required compromises in one upmanship-style posting.
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In 5 years time this is going to be a fascinating thread to read..
Well hopefully l will still be alive by then.
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But surely if they were running a Sekrit Conspiracy™ to rule the world, they wouldn't publicise the meetings or the attendees?
Difficult to keep that quiet given the number and identity of the average attendee.
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You're possibly closer to the truth than you think.
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