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Old 12-06-2017, 11:18   #16
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Re: Windows 10 cannot repair hard disk errors

My hard drive failed yesterday. On reflection it was getting a bit dodgy. Still its only the second since 1990.

The only problem I had was that the recovery disc (USB) was windows 8 ( I thought I had made a W10 one. However it wasn't a problem just very time consuming.

Most software is now back on I think?
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Re: Windows 10 cannot repair hard disk errors

there are different types of hard drive errors but like it has been mentioned above, once they start they tend to keep going. The best Windows can do is put a mark on them when it scans for disc errors so it knows not to use them and only good clusters get data written to. The last thing you want to do though is be in a situation where you lose data so as soon as you start having hdd probs it is worth getting a new one considering how cheap they are these days.
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there are different types of hard drive errors but like it has been mentioned above, once they start they tend to keep going. The best Windows can do is put a mark on them when it scans for disc errors so it knows not to use them and only good clusters get data written to. The last thing you want to do though is be in a situation where you lose data so as soon as you start having hdd probs it is worth getting a new one considering how cheap they are these days.
We backed everything up before ours went up the swanny thankfully.
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Re: Windows 10 cannot repair hard disk errors

cool, I have learnt that lesson as well over the years. Back in 2001 ish it was more of a case of having to download everything again and even 120mb for the latest NVidia drivers was a chore. I don't worry at all these days because I have got all my documents, apps, pics, favourites and anything else that isn't easily replaceable backed up on two hdds in my pc and in the event that everything dies for whatever reason, there is a third copy on a NAS in a room on the other side of the house.
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Re: Windows 10 cannot repair hard disk errors

I had same happen to me 3 months ago, a Samsung SSD 850EVO 250 Hard disk, for some reason over 30GB of the drive failed so i sent back to Samsung the drive was under a 14 months old.
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Re: Windows 10 cannot repair hard disk errors

I have just bought one of those so I hope it behaves itself
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This could perhaps have been avoided if Windows had a native HDD S.M.A.R.T. (Self-Monitoring, Analysis, and Reporting Technology) monitoring app. Unfortunately it doesn't.
Windows doesn't have a native S.M.A.R.T. app, but it does support S.M.A.R.T. I've seen warnings from Windows advising that a hard drive is likely to fail soon, and that I should back up the data and replace the drive.

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cool, I have learnt that lesson as well over the years. Back in 2001 ish it was more of a case of having to download everything again and even 120mb for the latest NVidia drivers was a chore. I don't worry at all these days because I have got all my documents, apps, pics, favourites and anything else that isn't easily replaceable backed up on two hdds in my pc and in the event that everything dies for whatever reason, there is a third copy on a NAS in a room on the other side of the house.
I'm in a similar position.

I don't actually have a lot of personal data to keep, but my Photos are backed up to iCloud. Other personal documents and data are backed up to either iCloud drive or Google drive. Work stuff is backed up to Microsoft Onedrive, which I have access to through work's Office 365 subscription, and I am not supposed to use unapproved cloud services for work data (which is fair enough). I do play a lot of games, but these often use either their own cloud system for saves, or Steamcloud or Xbox live.

I am currently trialling Amazon for data storage, as it's cheaper than Google. Google charge £9.99 a month for 1TB, and IIRC, Amazon charge £65 a year.

I've gone for a paid-for solution because, apart from the fact it gives you more storage, also entitles you, the consumer, to various legal protections that you do not get with free software (Sale of Goods act etc).

It shows how technology has changed though. A few years ago, if I had to set up my PC again, I would ensure everything was backed up to DVD, which would take hours. I would then need to wipe the machine, re-install everything, then restore my data. It could take a couple of days to get the machine back to where it should be.

Now, even though the apps I am using are far larger, and I am dealing with far more data, thanks to online distrubution of software, external HDDs, and cloud backups, I can have my machine back to where it should be within half a day. Less, if I follow my normal practice of only installing an app when I first need it.
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Re: Windows 10 cannot repair hard disk errors

I had no warnings, i was watching a video and video sound started getting slower and then a blue crash screen, after that windows refused to boot or be repaired.
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I had no warnings, i was watching a video and video sound started getting slower and then a blue crash screen, after that windows refused to boot or be repaired.
Hard drives can suddenly fail.. It doesn't happen often, as S.M.A.R.T. and other technologies are good and getting better, but it can happen, as even with the best error logging and prediction systems in the world, there can still be sudden failures. On a simplistic level, technologies such as S.M.A.R.T. log errors (and other conditions) that they (or other software) can then use to predict the likelyhood of a failure, but looking for signs such as a spike in temperature or numbers of errors).
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I am currently trialling Amazon for data storage, as it's cheaper than Google. Google charge £9.99 a month for 1TB, and IIRC, Amazon charge £65 a year.
Amazon Drive is actually unlimited, I paid £55 for the year and currently have 2.4 TB stored on it.

Also, for smaller amounts, Amazon S3 is quite cheap, if you set it up to transition stuff to Glacier storage, which is $0.048 per GB.
(So 100 GB for instance would cost about £4 per year).

One thing you have to be aware of with that though is there are retrival fees associated with Glacier.
So its really for stuff you are not likely to want to access often.

S3 is still quite cheap for smaller amounts (< 1TB) using their other storage systems, as you only pay for what you actually use.
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