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Old 21-01-2017, 11:11   #1516
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Yes politics has been working so fantastically for the last thirty years absolutely no reason to change a thing just keep going with the same successful lot we've had so we can all moan and do nothing. Maybe Trump will be a disaster i doubt it but maybe but at least the americans had the courage to try a change unlike so many in the UK who do nothing but moan and back away the second they have a chance for something different.
We tried the "something different " with Blair and his "new politics for the working man" and look how that turned out
 
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Old 21-01-2017, 13:42   #1517
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Yeah, because the last 18monthd have been scandal free.
For the US President it's been the most scandal-free presidency for a long time.
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Old 21-01-2017, 14:40   #1518
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For the US President it's been the most scandal-free presidency for a long time.
I assumed Pierre meant the last 18 months of Trump has been filled with scandal but he still won.
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I assumed Pierre meant the last 18 months of Trump has been filled with scandal but he still won.
My bad.
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Old 21-01-2017, 16:56   #1520
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My prediction is..... <snip>
Oh here we go, how many times have you said this crap again ?

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There have been major demos, in the US. And also in London. Trump may be BUSINESSMAN. But he is not an experience politician.
Major Demos ? Where ? There were mindless Anarchists, smashing windows and damaging property and protesting that Trump will destroy the World but they were destroying regular peoples property in their own country. Mindless morons.

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The biggest trouble is that, as he is a billionaire. He can buy everything. NOW he has to biggest coup going - the President of America
But if he does what he says and creates jobs, being a billionaire matters because you're not?

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And what l have to laugh at. Did you see the amount of crowd there was, compared to Obama.
Yeah I saw the crowd, was not as big as Obama's but you have to consider a multitude of reasons why. 63 Million Americans voted for him but they all could not descend on to Washington to go support him, not only that, Washington is heavily Democratic, so the crowds would have been larger for Obama for this reason alone, plus it was more historic given he was the first Black President to have been Elected, the support clearly evaporated for him at his second term Inauguration.

Inauguration estimates for former Presidents.

President Bill Clinton, 1993: 800,000 people
President Bill Clinton, 1997: 250,000 people
President George W. Bush, 2001: 300,000 people
President George W. Bush, 2005: 400,000 people
President Barack Obama, 2009: 1.8 million people
President Barack Obama, 2013: 1 million people

Lyndon B. Johnson held the previous Record for 1.2 million.

Between 700,000 - 900,000 were expected at Trumps Inauguration and from the later photos and live footage taken during him taking the Oath of Office reflect, he still had a significant gathering but there are misleading memes being put out showing hardly any crowds, I guess anyone can take a picture hours before the event begins.
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Major Demos ? Where ? There were mindless Anarchists, smashing windows and damaging property and protesting that Trump will destroy the World but they were destroying regular peoples property in their own country. Mindless morons.
Just about everywhere ,and not small either

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38700123

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I guess anyone can take a picture hours before the event begins.
Or use a picture of Obamas inauguration because it has more people in it .

Anyhoo,numbers of protesters in washington are expected to be more than at the inauguration rally

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38705586
 
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Quite cool. Biden, who was famous as a Senator for taking the train to Washington from Pennsylvania left the ceremony and went right back to using the trains.

I think he was actually Senator for Delaware, and used the train every day to make sure he was home to see his sons every night when they went to bed, following the tragic loss of his wife and daughter in a car crash just after he was elected.

He also sent a memo to all of his staff when he was VP telling them that he expected them to put their family obligations before their jobs, and that he would be very displeased if they didn't.
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Old 21-01-2017, 18:40   #1523
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I think he was actually Senator for Delaware, and used the train every day to make sure he was home to see his sons every night when they went to bed, following the tragic loss of his wife and daughter in a car crash just after he was elected.

He also sent a memo to all of his staff when he was VP telling them that he expected them to put their family obligations before their jobs, and that he would be very displeased if they didn't.
I wish he ran for the Democratic nomination. He also appears to be the most connected to the concerns of the Democratic voters who went Trump.
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I wish he ran for the Democratic nomination. He also appears to be the most connected to the concerns of the Democratic voters who went Trump.
Is that a new, possibly insulting, euphemism?

I reckon Trump's has an advantage in that it'd be difficult for him to be as bad as many people seem to think he will be.

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Old 21-01-2017, 18:46   #1525
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He's 74, and probably thinks he's earned a rest.
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I wish he ran for the Democratic nomination. He also appears to be the most connected to the concerns of the Democratic voters who went Trump.

From what I've picked up in interviews I don't think he really wants the top job, despite probably being very suited to it (like Vince Cable with the Lib Dem leadership).
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The crowd in Washington is pretty big:

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The White House has confirmed May will be first World leader to visit Trump as she flies to Washington next week.
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Old 21-01-2017, 19:03   #1528
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Just about everywhere ,and not small either

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38700123[COLOR="Silver"]
They are big, but I've seen bigger protests.

While you got these protesters marching in London and elsewhere, preaching about women's and gay rights, I don't see these same people marching in protest at the treatment of Women and gays in certain quarters of the Middle East. One word to sum them up: Hypocrites.

And more importantly, while it's a perfectly reasonable right to hold a protest, some are protesting not at Trump himself but celebrating Equality and I can understand that, however, it is rather pointless, those protesting against his Presidency, with slogans of 'Dump Trump', it will not change a thing. they are essentially protesting against democracy, just like the sore losers that they are, just like the ones here, who were protesting in London, when brexit had won.

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Anyhoo,numbers of protesters in washington are expected to be more than at the inauguration rally
I'd be keen to see the actual numbers before believing that, however, either way.... It does not mean a thing. Trump remains the 45th President.
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And more importantly, while it's a perfectly reasonable right to hold a protest, some are protesting not at Trump himself but celebrating Equality and I can understand that, however, it is rather pointless, those protesting against his Presidency, with slogans of 'Dump Trump', it will not change a thing. they are essentially protesting against democracy, just like the sore losers that they are, just like the ones here, who were protesting in London, when brexit had won.
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"I just felt a great disturbance in the force as if millions of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced."
Stay calm Russ, that's just your constipation relief working
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