June 8th General Election

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Have the tories released detailed costings yet? Don't suppose it matters if they haven't because they can always resort to the old favourite of

releasing very tight spending plans before elections but spending and taxing more after winning them

who needs a money tree when you can just mug of the public again and again, labour might be shambolic but at least their honest, well not as dishonest!


https://www.channel4.com/news/factch...spending-plans

I think you will see that IRAbour will have to start taxing people once after the election and if they win, big if still, to pay for all those carrots they have dangled to entice potential gullible voters.

And as for IRAbour being honest?

I smell BS. Are you forgetting the biggest lie of all, one that you have constantly preached about?

The Iraq war and WMD. But I just know you're going to come back to me say that was back then....

.....But more recently, only Last week, Steptoe said he had never met the IRA, yet his racist former lover, the day after, in another car crash interview, Abbott said he had. We know he had, history tells it so. So he told a blatant lie.

The man is a cretin, along with Mcdonnell, who also expressed there should be honour for the IRA i.e for the 'bombs and the bullets'.

People say Corbyn is a nice man, bollocks, he is a cretin, nasty piece of work who has rubbed shoulders with people who had nothing but murderous intent and in a large way, had achieved their murderous goals with the bombs and bullets that remember, Mcdonnell had said should be 'honoured'.

Then we have Abbott, who thinks 10,000 police officers cost £300,000 a year, but then thought it was £8,000 a year. But more importantly, history records this racist traitor for saying she wanted the IRA to defeat the British, but let's not forget, in another embarrassing car crash interview, she puts her views back then to having a different hairstyle.... Her line said 'The hairstyle has gone and some of the views have gone.'.... 'Some' being the key word here that should be very alarming, as she could be Home Secretary after next Friday.

Him, Abbott and Mcdonnell are a bunch of sniveling scumbags and are an insult to the electorate, given their previous history, they should not even be an MP or served as one for all this time. They are total traitors.

But honest you say....What utter Bollards.

[Mr K]

So Jeremy can you put you down as undecided then Mick?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mick

I think you will see that IRAbour will have to start taxing people once after the election and if they win, big if still, to pay for all those carrots they have dangled to entice potential gullible voters.

Where as things will be different under the CONservatives, shame past history tells us a different story

And as for IRAbour being honest?

I smell BS. Are you forgetting the biggest lie of all, one that you have constantly preached about?

The Iraq war and WMD. But I just know you're going to come back to me say that was back then....

No I'm not, what I'd say is, bliar should be in the Hague

.....But more recently, only Last week, Steptoe said he had never met the IRA, yet his racist former lover, the day after, in another car crash interview, Abbott said he had. We know he had, history tells it so. So he told a blatant lie.

The man is a cretin, along with Mcdonnell, who also expressed there should be honour for the IRA i.e for the 'bombs and the bullets'.

People say Corbyn is a nice man, bollocks, he is a cretin, nasty piece of work who has rubbed shoulders with people who had nothing but murderous intent and in a large way, had achieved their murderous goals with the bombs and bullets that remember, Mcdonnell had said should be 'honoured'.

Does history tell it so? What I know of the history is that the gutter press including the once great thunderer claimed he'd given financial help to an IRA bomber on the run when the truth was he'd actually phoned the police and Gerry Adams saying corbyn had played a small but vital role in the peace process.

https://www.channel4.com/news/factch...rthern-ireland

Then we have Abbott, who thinks 10,000 police officers cost £300,000 a year, but then thought it was £8,000 a year. But more importantly, history records this racist traitor for saying she wanted the IRA to defeat the British, but let's not forget, in another embarrassing car crash interview, she puts her views back then to having a different hairstyle.... Her line said 'The hairstyle has gone and some of the views have gone.'.... 'Some' being the key word here that should be very alarming, as she could be Home Secretary after next Friday.

Him, Abbott and Mcdonnell are a bunch of sniveling scumbags and are an insult to the electorate, given their previous history, they should not even be an MP or served as one for all this time. They are total traitors.

But honest you say....What utter Bollards.

Wonder why you don't have a pop at Phillip hammond who got his figures wrong by 20 billion on the radio the other day, whilst he was attempting to have a go at labour spending I might add

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politic...d-bbc-10438641

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Where as things will be different under the CONservatives, shame past history tells us a different story



No I'm not, what I'd say is, bliar should be in the Hague



Does history tell it so? What I know of the history is that the gutter press including the once great thunderer claimed he'd given financial help to an IRA bomber on the run when the truth was he'd actually phoned the police and Gerry Adams saying corbyn had played a small but vital role in the peace process.

https://www.channel4.com/news/factch...rthern-ireland



Wonder why you don't have a pop at Phillip hammond who got his figures wrong by 20 billion on the radio the other day, whilst he was attempting to have a go at labour spending I might add

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politic...d-bbc-10438641

LOL, you start going on about the gutter press yet quote a story sourcing the gutter press... class, this could not be made up. I don't deny Philip Hammond did not make a mistake, silly you Philip, however, he is not the type to consistently make mistakes. He still gets my support.

However, the issue with the IRA and Corbyn is not made up by the gutter press, the man has talked about it in various forms, not condemned the IRA when asked and Diane Abbott is on record, to have said he has met the IRA.

The records exist from their own mouths in some form, either on camera or in radio interviews.

---------- Post added at 20:14 ---------- Previous post was at 20:04 ----------

Originally Posted by Mr K

So Jeremy can you put you down as undecided then Mick?

I am trying to think of a silly answer Mr K, I will get back to you some time....

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

So Jeremy can you put you down as undecided then Mick?

I think Mick and Jeremy are actually​ one and the same - I mean do you ever see them together?

Cheers

Dave

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mick

LOL, you start going on about the gutter press yet quote a story sourcing the gutter press... class, this could not be made up. I don't deny Philip Hammond did not make a mistake, silly you Philip, however, he is not the type to consistently make mistakes. He still gets my support.

However, the issue with the IRA and Corbyn is not made up by the gutter press, the man has talked about it in various forms, not condemned the IRA when asked and Diane Abbott is on record, to have said he has met the IRA.

The records exist from their own mouths in some form, either on camera or in radio interviews.

You couldn't make it up? You could, we've all seen you make things up and claim I've posted them before.

Hilarious, Hammond does the same as Abbott and it's simply a mistake, whereas the other bozo is the talk of the town for weeks, how thick are these people not to know the figures before they go into interviews, it's so obvious it's the first thing any interviewer worth his pay will jump on it makes me wonder if it is stupidity or sheer utter contempt for the electorate.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

You couldn't make it up? You could, we've all seen you make things up and claim I've posted them before.

Hilarious, Hammond does the same as Abbott and it's simply a mistake, whereas the other bozo is the talk of the town for weeks, how thick are these people not to know the figures before they go into interviews, it's so obvious it's the first thing any interviewer worth his pay will jump on it makes me wonder if it is stupidity or sheer utter contempt for the electorate.

I've made nothing up, regarding what you have said. Last week you said you're not defending IRAbour, yet here you are, doing exactly that.

There is a massive difference between Abbott and Hammond.

Hammond made one slip up, also is not racist and more importantly has not had any previous affiliation with or supported the IRA or wanted Britain to be defeated by them.

May pulled out of Woman's Hour today, the same show that gave Corbyn the hard time over not knowing the costings of one of his policies.

I know it's all political calculation, she doesn't need to do it so why risk it? But it's becoming very grating how little she will do it. I think it's a bit hypocritical to have a go at Corbyn for his mistake, and that was a poor performance from him, but not do it yourself. I also think it undermines the whole strong and stable image and that she will stick it to the EU when she ducks all these interviews and debates.

Her excuse is rather pathetic too. That she is focused on Brexit. She was the one who called the election! To call an election then act as if it's beneath you, or a act of frivolity, to campaign for votes is so contemptuous of the electorate. She is lucky her opposition is Corbyn.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

I am trying to think of a silly answer Mr K, I will get back to you some time....

I can help. "Vote Theresa Maybe for a strong and stable government without any u-turns maybe"

Originally Posted by Damien

May pulled out of Woman's Hour today, the same show that gave Corbyn the hard time over not knowing the costings of one of his policies.

I know it's all political calculation, she doesn't need to do it so why risk it? But it's becoming very grating how little she will do it. I think it's a bit hypocritical to have a go at Corbyn for his mistake, and that was a poor performance from him, but not do it yourself. I also think it undermines the whole strong and stable image and that she will stick it to the EU when she ducks all these interviews and debates.

Her excuse is rather pathetic too. That she is focused on Brexit. She was the one who called the election! To call an election then act as if it's beneath you, or a act of frivolity, to campaign for votes is so contemptuous of the electorate. She is lucky her opposition is Corbyn.

Was this aimed at me? I have not criticised Corbyn on his R4 Interview. Not even brought it up today so don't understand the hypocritical comment?

Originally Posted by Mick

Was this aimed at me? I have not criticised Corbyn on his R4 Interview. Not even brought it up today so don't understand the hypocritical comment?

No, it was general. A new comment rather than a reply to one. The hypocritical comment was aimed at the Tories for criticising Corbyn over the interview when May refuses to do it.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

No, it was general. A new comment rather than a reply to one. The hypocritical comment was aimed at the Tories for criticising Corbyn over the interview when May refuses to do it.

Fair point. They're probably worried that Theresa Maybe would change her policies under the pressure of an interview or debate.

[Mr K]

Ooff there's been in a swing to Labour in the CF poll, is this reflecting the national trend

Originally Posted by Damien

No, it was general. A new comment rather than a reply to one. The hypocritical comment was aimed at the Tories for criticising Corbyn over the interview when May refuses to do it.

Her campaign team need to be fired. She has been on the offensive for weeks and people are genuinely fed up of hearing her say 'Strong and Stable. It was poor choice for slogan, not because I believe she is opposite but did no one think in her team that her opponents would throw back at her, that those words could be changed to Weak and Feeble?

She should have gone to lastnights debate when Corbyn did a U-Turn and decided to go and she should have not sent Amber Rudd, when only two days earlier, her father died.

Despite all the above criticisms, people know my views already as to why I would never vote IRAbour and Lib Dems are too Anti-Brexit.

I cannot help but think that could there be a Saboteur, I.E someone who had Prime Minister ambitions within or used to be in the Tory ranks. Cough Osborne?

[1andrew1]

This election campaign appeared boring. Competent May against an incompetent and lacklustre Corbyn and an inexperienced Farron. A landslide guaranteed.
It's not so much as what Corbyn has done right but what May has done wrong. A dementia tax pulled out of the hat then hastily stuffed back in again with the costs unknown. A free vote on fox-hunting which 90% of the country is against. And a manifesto which does not add up financially leading to inevitable tax rises pretty quickly.
It's certainly interesting times next week.