Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered ! - Page 8

Kursk · 13-02-2017, 10:05

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Not sure about the language that is now returning to this thread

What language?

Osem · 13-02-2017, 10:27

My God the world is going to fall in around our ears now we've dared to do our own thing. We're truly going to be left high and dry aren't we, ostracised by the entire EU and surgically excised from every aspect of trade and even the mutual collaboration we've been part of, especially those in which the UK's expertise has been vital. How could anyone have been so stupid to want to leave all those friendly EU nations who've kept us afloat all these years and just when the future was looking sooooo good just the other side of the Channel?

I've now realised how wrong I was to vote 'out' and am going to demand another referendum because I was so busy being a swivel eyed loon that I didn't realise what I was really voting for was eternal damnation for the UK. Everyone needs to wake up realise that without the thoroughly united leadership and vision of those wonderful people in Brussels to guide our every thought and deed the UK is doomed to become a socially and economically frozen wasteland while the EU moves from one glorious triumph to another, steering the family of friendly nations to their destiny in the new one size fits all state called Utopia...

It won't be just Europe either, the rest of the world will cut us off too because we were so stupid to think we knew what was right for us. Yes, they'll all refuse to trade with the UK and we'll soon be reduced to the level of a third world nation reliant on the charity of those who knew better.

Please forgive us - we knew not what we did!!!...

techguyone · 13-02-2017, 10:35

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UK could be shut out of super-accurate EU GPS system it helped to build
Exclusive: The EU’s Galileo GPS system went live in December, but the UK will now have to negotiate, and pay for, access to it

Brexit could leave the UK out of new EU-wide global positioning system (GPS) that went live in December after more than 15 years in development, with much of the cutting-edge work having been carried out by British companies.

whoopie doopie do, we have USA GPS & the Russian one, was there even a need for another EU one, I think we'll be ok thank you.

Osem · 13-02-2017, 10:43

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whoopie doopie do, we have USA GPS & the Russian one, was there even a need for another EU one, I think we'll be ok thank you.

Apparently the EU version insists on giving every instruction in all the EU languages one after the other. If you try to modify it, it cuts you off from the system permanently and removes your host country from the service...

1andrew1 · 13-02-2017, 10:48

Can't these liberal journos at the Daily Telegraph accept the people voted to leave and stop reporting the news?

'Brexit factor'Britons may have to work until their mid-70s if immigration is cut in the wake of Brexit, warns Government's pension adviser

Britons may have to work longer if immigration is cut in the wake of Brexit, according to a warning from the Government’s pension adviser.
John Cridland, a former CBI director reviewing the state pension age for the Government, said the “Brexit Factor” had made the future of the state pension uncertain.
The Government’s decision on pension changes, due in May, will be informed by Mr Cridland’s report to be published one month earlier.
Brexit is likely to reduce the number of people of working age coming into the UK from the EU and, unless this shortfall is made up elsewhere, the UK’s old-age dependency ratio looks set to rise
New calculations reveal a “hard Brexit” in which migration is greatly reduced, could push up retirement ages, potentially forcing people to work well into their mid-70s.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...e-pension-age/

tweetiepooh · 13-02-2017, 10:56

Oh big surprise - we will have to work longer for our pensions. That was there before Brexit vote as we are living longer and the honest people looking after the pension pots have ensured such great returns on the money we put in.

I'd hope we would remain part of Galileo, after all we have already contributed to it. After all it was intended to be a commercial system rather than the more military controlled US version that the Pres can order to more or less accuracy as he wants. Galileo was intended to provide much more accurate positioning to more people than currently available.

1andrew1 · 13-02-2017, 11:05

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Oh big surprise - we will have to work longer for our pensions. That was there before Brexit vote as we are living longer and the honest people looking after the pension pots have ensured such great returns on the money we put in.

I'd hope we would remain part of Galileo, after all we have already contributed to it. After all it was intended to be a commercial system rather than the more military controlled US version that the Pres can order to more or less accuracy as he wants. Galileo was intended to provide much more accurate positioning to more people than currently available.

The article says that a hard exit will increase the working age by more years than if we remained or had a soft Brexit.

pip08456 · 13-02-2017, 11:09

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The article says that a hard exit will increase the working age by more years than if we remained or had a soft Brexit.

No it doesn't.

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Britons may have to work longer...

1andrew1 · 13-02-2017, 11:19

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No it doesn't.

It appears the choice of a hard Brexit will increase the working age or increase taxes according to this statements in the article:

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Law firm Eversheds Sutherland, which is researching the effect of Brexit on the state pension age, has warned that if the Government fails to raise state pension age amid falling migration, it will have to raise taxes instead.
Francois Barker, a director at the firm, said: “All the signs are that Brexit is likely to reduce the number of people of working age coming into the UK from the EU and, unless this shortfall is made up elsewhere, the UK’s old-age dependency ratio looks set to rise even further than currently projected.

Osem · 13-02-2017, 11:23

May, could, might, blah, blah, blah...

The sky 'might' fall in as a result of Brexit!

On the other hand it might not.

1andrew1 · 13-02-2017, 11:28

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Originally Posted by Osem

May, could, might, blah, blah, blah...

The sky 'might' fall in as a result of Brexit...

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Law firm Eversheds Sutherland, which is researching the effect of Brexit on the state pension age, has warned that if the Government fails to raise state pension age amid falling migration, it will have to raise taxes instead.

Osem · 13-02-2017, 12:01

What did the law firm say about what the UK govt. will have to do about taxes/spending in the alternative scenario when all the migrants get old and want their pensions, social care?

Talk about myopia.

1andrew1 · 13-02-2017, 12:53

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What did the law firm say about what the UK govt. will have to do about taxes/spending in the alternative scenario when all the migrants get old and want their pensions, social care?

Talk about myopia.

You assume that all migrants are happy to remain in the UK and pay sky-high rent forever. They don't.

Pierre · 13-02-2017, 13:13

If, May, might, could, possibly, potentially etc, - this is the language of speculation and therefore not real News.

Does, did, will, has, had, etc, - this is the language of certainty.

Ultimately most of the reportage to do with brexit falls into the Speculative category, as it hasn't happened yet and no one knows really what will happen.

Therefore the vast majority of the links and reportage posted on this thread is bollocks.

passingbat · 13-02-2017, 13:14

Andrew, please take this in the humorous spirit in which it is meant, but are you the new 'Georgy Boy', spreading words of doom on Brexit Britain?