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Old 19-02-2017, 17:02   #61
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Re: UKIP has (had) a new leader

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Well any of the alternatives are no salvation. They're doomed.
FPTP means they probably aren't. 2020 looks a lot cause though barring any major crisis.

I think the future for Labour will be a fresh face that takes over once Brexit no longer divides the party. I am not sure what their platform would be but that would be the job of a new leader to work out. You would have to say under such circumstances, Brexit out of the way, they might do well after 2020.

Either that or a realignment of politics in general which the existing parties splitting, reforming etc. That seems less likely though.
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Old 19-02-2017, 17:05   #62
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FPTP means they probably aren't. 2020 looks a lot cause though barring any major crisis.

I think the future for Labour will be a fresh face that takes over once Brexit no longer divides the party. I am not sure what their platform would be but that would be the job of a new leader to work out. You would have to say under such circumstances, Brexit out of the way, they might do well after 2020.

Either that or a realignment of politics in general which the existing parties splitting, reforming etc. That seems less likely though.
No matter which way you go it will still be "same old, same old". The only difference is it would be given a different wrapper.

I do wish some of us surfs learned their place in the higherachy of the country.
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Well any of the alternatives are no salvation. They're doomed.
Corbyn is probably worse then Foot although the leaders of the other party leaders ain't much to write home about either so we are not exactly enamoured with much good choice at the moment in British politics currently.
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Corbyn is probably worse then Foot although the leaders of the other party leaders ain't much to write home about either so we are not exactly enamoured with much good choice at the moment in British politics currently.
Ah, you noticed. Even the leaders have leaders.
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Re: UKIP has (had) a new leader

Things are not getting any better for Paul Nuttall. It would have been expedient for him to distance himself from Arron Banks's Hillsborough comments and a natural thing to do as a Liverpool supporter. He just isn't demonstrating common sense. And a photo of his supporters taken in Bolton stated as being in Stoke adds to his reputation for inaccuracy.

Two UKIP Merseyside officials QUIT over Paul Nuttall Hillsborough saga
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Liverpool Echo Stuart Monkcom, UKIP’s Liverpool branch chair, and Adam Heatherington, the party’s Merseyside spokesman, have both quit their positions and resigned their party memberships.
In a statement on behalf of both men, Mr Monkcom wrote: “Although the timing of our resignations is unfortunate in light of upcoming elections, both Adam and I wish to make it clear, where the painful subject of Hillsborough is concerned, with closure not yet in sight, this unprofessional approach and crass insensitivity from high profile people closely within and without Ukip is upsetting and intolerable.”..

But his [Paul Nuttall's] party seemed unsure of exactly where Stoke is is over the weekend, tweeting a picture of Ukip’s “people’s army” allegedly campaigning in the Potteries only for it to be pointed out by twitter users that the photograph was taken more than 50 miles away in Bolton.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/...-quit-12628085

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Re: UKIP has (had) a new leader

Personally I think we're being too harsh. Parliament needs more of this kind of creative thinking. Imagine Nuttall regaling parliament of his many adventures around the world! The time he and Nikola Tesla broke into Edison's house and stole his equipment, his brief but intense affair with Audrey Hepburn, his time advising President Kennedy during the Cuban Missile Crisis, his infamous touchdown in the last play of Superbowl XXXVIII or the shrimp company he started with Lieutenant Dan. The man just has so much to contribute to politics.
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