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Old 01-10-2007, 10:37   #16
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Re: Storage heaters - cost to run?

A landlord can either charge you for what you use, if you have a meter, or based on your floorspace and installed appliances if you don't.

In the former case, you should get a bill detailing your usage. In the latter, you will just get a bill from him for your share of the total electricity used by the whole building.

If he's billing you based on usage he is allowed to include your share of the standing charge in the bill. I don't know whether he's doing that by inflating your price per unit (or even if that's allowed).

If you're billed based on the size of your flat and what you have installed, then there's little incentive for you to be careful with your heaters as cutting down your own leccy usage will not necessarily have a direct, appreciable effect on your bill (as your savings will simply be shared among all tenants).
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A landlord can either charge you for what you use, if you have a meter, or based on your floorspace and installed appliances if you don't.

In the former case, you should get a bill detailing your usage. In the latter, you will just get a bill from him for your share of the total electricity used by the whole building.

If he's billing you based on usage he is allowed to include your share of the standing charge in the bill. I don't know whether he's doing that by inflating your price per unit (or even if that's allowed).
I have my own meter in between mine and my neighbour, so get accurately charged (i've evn checked this )
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Re: Storage heaters - cost to run?

In that case, I think your heating and billing arrangements are as good as you can expect them to be ... all you can do is be sensible about which heaters you switch on, and when.
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In that case, I think your heating and billing arrangements are as good as you can expect them to be ... all you can do is be sensible about which heaters you switch on, and when.
These are them http://www.noboheatinguk.com/product...es14_e4eu.html Athough i can't see the output watt to work it out

At least i have a much better idea now tho, thanks v much - can't give you anymore rep until i spread it around a bit
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Re: Storage heaters - cost to run?

Elsewhere on the same site:

http://www.noboheatinguk.com/pdf/s14_e4eu.pdf

Your model has variable output from 0.5kW to 2kW, depending on how high you turn up the heat. So anything from about 5p to 20p per heater per hour.

20p per hour is very expensive, especially for multiple heaters. Hopefully you won't need to run them all at high heat very often!
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Elsewhere on the same site:

http://www.noboheatinguk.com/pdf/s14_e4eu.pdf

Your model has variable output from 0.5kW to 2kW, depending on how high you turn up the heat. So anything from about 5p to 20p per heater per hour.

20p per hour is very expensive, especially for multiple heaters. Hopefully you won't need to run them all at high heat very often!
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Re: Storage heaters - cost to run?

Just keep the doors closed and only heat the rooms you're using. You should be ok.

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Hang on - just reading that PDF again - they aren't variable output, they're different models with differing outputs depending on which one you buy. So you're back to looking for a rating plate again ... actually all you need is the precise, complete model number, the PDF gives the output for each. For example the E4EU 0500 is the 0.5kW model and the E4EU 2000 is the 2kW model.

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According to this page:

http://www.noboheatinguk.com/techdata_spec.html

You can tilt them forwards for decorating behind - you may find the rating plate or a full model number there.
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Just keep the doors closed and only heat the rooms you're using. You should be ok.

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Hang on - just reading that PDF again - they aren't variable output, they're different models with differing outputs depending on which one you buy. So you're back to looking for a rating plate again ... actually all you need is the precise, complete model number, the PDF gives the output for each. For example the E4EU 0500 is the 0.5kW model and the E4EU 2000 is the 2kW model.
I've looked at that PDF and i've definitely got the biggest one in my living room. It has a big area to heat because its open plan living/dining and kitchen. Does that mean no matter what heat i have it on it will always be using 2kW?

The others are quite small ones, will check out exact models later.
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Re: Storage heaters - cost to run?

If it's the biggest one, then its output is 2kW no matter what you do.

Remember though that it's only emitting that level of heat while it's switched on. When your room reaches the temperature set on the thermostat, the heater will cut out and only come on again occasionally to keep the temperature constant.

It only costs you 20p per hour to use if it runs constantly for that hour. It gets tricky at this point to work out what it's actually using to maintain your temperature - short of standing over it for an hour with a stopwatch and recording how much time it spends switched on, I'm not sure what you can do.
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Re: Storage heaters - cost to run?

OK, that doesn't seem to hard to keep track of. If i keep the heat realistic and use only when needed, and keep the thermostat at an acceptable temperature so it doesn't keep switching on and off.

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I could always offer to come round and keep you warm???
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3 hours journey for 30 seconds of action, i'll give it a miss hun
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Re: Storage heaters - cost to run?

Personally, give how expensive these heaters are to run (and how ineffectual they are as well, most of the time) - I think it's criminal they put them in at all, rather than using a gas system - but I guess it's all to do with cutting costs

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30 seconds????? you've got to be joking - I ain't doing it twice!
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Personally, give how expensive these heaters are to run (and how ineffectual they are as well, most of the time) - I think it's criminal they put them in at all, rather than using a gas system - but I guess it's all to do with cutting costs
Not at all, its safety. There was a gas explosion about 20 years ago in a block near to my mums where luckily no one died but the whole side was blown out the building. So i believe gas appliances aren't allowed anymore - which is a shame cos my friend offered to lend me his Calor Gas GTi

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Not at all, its safety. There was a gas explosion about 20 years ago in a block near to my mums where luckily no one died but the whole side was blown out the building. So i believe gas appliances aren't allowed anymore - which is a shame cos my friend offered to lend me his Calor Gas GTi
Well from the post SMHarman posted earlier, it reads to me that as long as the building can withstand a blast of 5psi, then it can have gas, and those that can't, don't have gas? - which points to a cost saving exercise (but I could have read it wrong).
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