Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

You can be a remainer and patriotic you know
the US has given us McDonalds....

They also prevented us from Goose Stepping in the cub scouts.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Agreed. The number of Americanisms I've seen on this forum by Brexiters who proclaim themselves to be more patriotic due to their decision on 23/6/16 is somewhat contradictory.

The English language continually evolves, and happily absorbs words and phrases from other languages, as any Raconteur will tell you.

Originally Posted by Mr K

I was just pointing out that some Brexiteers on here love everything US, and hate everything EU.

Here we go again with the wild and inaccurate assumptions.

You're comparing a Country vs. An Institution, the EU is not necessarily one single place or point, it is a body, a partnership and group of 28 countries.

The reasons for hating the EU, are completely justified. As I pointed out a few days ago, only 10 Countries pay more in to it than they get out of it and we are one of them, while 18 other Countries, we piggyback and they get more out of it than they put in. It's an unbalanced, economic disaster waiting to happen.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Yes your name vill go on ze list too passingbat.

Nice on Mr K; it really did made me smile.


But it does go to show that you really don't get it at all!

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Mick

Here we go again with the wild and inaccurate assumptions.

You're comparing a Country vs. An Institution, the EU is not necessarily one single place or point, it is a body, a partnership and group of 28 countries.

The reasons for hating the EU, are completely justified. As I pointed out a few days ago, only 10 Countries pay more in to it than they get out of it and we are one of them, while 18 other Countries, we piggyback and they get more out of it than they put in. It's an unbalanced, economic disaster waiting to happen.

It doesn't matter how many time you explain why we want our of the EU and that it's not to do with hating Europe at all. Some people just refuse to accept it and then use that as their reasoning to bang on ad nauseam about how xenophobic Brexiteers hate Europe. I'm on the record as saying I love Europe and wish the EU could have been different (i.e. a true collaboration of friendly states as opposed to a single state with a single currency and economic policy etc.) but it makes no difference to some folks. The EU's intransigence is the problem not the nations or peoples of Europe and they given us no choice but to leave.

[papa smurf]

any hoo some great news it's USA week at lidl woo hooo

https://www.lidl.co.uk/en/Offers.htm...nt=USAFoodWeek

The EU isn't europe and if you don't understand that then your too far gone to try and debate with. I love many european things not wine or cheese but i like german and french cinema, i like italian cuisine, i love the carefree attitude of most of the benelux countries. Wanting the UK out of the EU does not translate to being anti european in anyway whatsoever and to claim one is linked to the other is just another pathetically desperate attempt to frame the debate.

There are things about the USA i love and hate and yes if i had the cash I'd emigrate there tomorrow if for nothing else so i could fly my national flag and not have a vocal bunch of morons tell me it's racist. I would move to america not want the UK to become america the UK has a unique history, identity and outlook that sadly is being eroded and abandoned by more and more so called UK citizens. Biggest appeal to me for america is their belief in their country and the support they give a bit like how the UK used to be before it became something to ashamed of starting at school and i saw it with my own kids telling me how bad the UK was for what it had done in it's past.

Leaving the EU is the last chance to retain our uniqueness and to build a stronger society but that doesn't have to come at the expense of a global outlook and relationship and I've never heard anyone with half a brain that's ever said differently.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mick

I never asked you to look.

Calling it down market when it isn't is disdain. But no surprise... You wouldn't, being one of his 'few', Anti-Brexit buddies.

However, I was not seeking for your agreement or approval. It's my view and I stand by it.

Does it matter that he never actually called America down market

Government defeats the second and final amendment being voted on tonight. 322 MPs voted against the amendment on Brexit and remaining in the Single Market and Customs Union, with only 101 voting in favour.

Lib Dem's Tim Farron is a little pissed with Jezza....

http://news.sky.com/story/live-gover...mmons-10931422

Jezza had ordered his MPs to abstain on this vote, but its seems as many as 60 defied the order. Labour Shadow Minister for Transport, Daniel Zeichner has resigned as a shadow transport minister for voting in favour of the amendment.

[denphone]

He sacked 3 of them.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...le-market-vote

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by denphone

He sacked 3 of them.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...le-market-vote

they don't seem very stable too many going their own way

[Osem]

All going well at Corbyn Towers is it? The way he's going, his extended family will be in his shadow cabinet soon...
I note David Zeichner seems to be unable or unwilling to differentiate between people who're pro European and those who are just anti EU.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

they don't seem very stable too many going their own way

Both parties on Europe have considerable fault lines and nowt has changed in that respect.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Osem

All going well at Corbyn Towers is it? The way he's going, his extended family will be in his shadow cabinet soon...
I note David Zeichner seems to be unable or unwilling to differentiate between people who're pro European and those who are just anti EU.

a few more votes and it'll just be jezza and flabbot unless she forgets what she's doing . still nothing like a strong opposition ....

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

thats fair enough glad we could work that out - the main thing i like about the USA is the monster in law lives in Florida and i thank them for that .

lol

The Grauniad comments are pure gold this morning. Absolutely packed with Labour voters who seem utterly shocked that Corbyn has turned out to be pro Brexit and pro getting out of the single market.