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Old 06-11-2017, 15:56   #76
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Also there's no such thing as a digital aerial, this was a myth perpetuated by aerial installers at Digital Switchover.
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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

I find freeview useful as an alternative source particularly when you've got one box feeding a few TVs and you want to watch different things ! Plus the HD on freeview seems to be better for some reason.
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Also there's no such thing as a digital aerial, this was a myth perpetuated by aerial installers at Digital Switchover.
As usual they take a grain of truth and twist it to get sales. A so-called “digital aerial” was just a wideband UHF aerial, able to receive all frequencies used in terrestrial broadcasts in the UK.

In some places, while analogue and digital were broadcasting at the same time, it was necessary to broadcast digital outside of the transmitter’s usual frequency group. In such cases a house with a rooftop aerial optimised to receive only frequencies from within that group would be inadequate to receive digital transmissions properly. In those cases, a wideband aerial was required.
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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

Boost for ITV as Government backs commercial deal in £80m fees row with Virgin Media.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...es-row-virgin/

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A Government spokesman said: “We would hope that both parties can reach an agreement as there are mutual benefits of ITV's public service channel being carried on the Virgin platform.

“However, we are clear that this is a matter that is best resolved through commercial negotiation."

The hands-off approach clears the ground for ITV to hold out for payment. A deadline last month was extended to early next year, when incoming chief executive Carolyn McCall begins work at Britain’s biggest commercial broadcaster.
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Have they done the same for sky and if not why? If sky are getting away with it couldnt VM do the same as sky?
Itv never used to be on sky, wasn't for years and it really irked them
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Itv never used to be on sky, wasn't for years and it really irked them
They had better be ready to be irked again, I think! When VM take a different feed and put them down further in the EPG, ITV will be well annoyed!
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They had better be ready to be irked again, I think! When VM take a different feed and put them down further in the EPG, ITV will be well annoyed!
Serves them right if that happens..
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They had better be ready to be irked again, I think! When VM take a different feed and put them down further in the EPG, ITV will be well annoyed!
It irked sky, apologies for not being clearer, we used to like to remind them that Britain's most popular independent channel wasn't available on their platform
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How can VM get round this by showing a different feed? Surely they will still be 'rebroadcasting' the channel?
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How can VM get round this by showing a different feed? Surely they will still be 'rebroadcasting' the channel?

My idea of making ITV responsible for individual collection of those who choose to take ITV as a ppv channel is the best idea.

A second option would be for virgin to agree to pay the £80m and charge ITV £150m for access to Virgin's system.
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My idea of making ITV responsible for individual collection of those who choose to take ITV as a ppv channel is the best idea.

A second option would be for virgin to agree to pay the £80m and charge ITV £150m for access to Virgin's system.
Then itv would say no thanks
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Then itv would say no thanks

No loss, I am sure most people can get ITV main channel through an aerial, or other method.

I certainly do not want to pay for what should be a free channel (and is such on other platforms), hence my preferred solution of making it a PPV channel with
ITV being responsible for collecting the fees - or even paying Virgin to collect them.

To be forced to pay for ITV included in existing packages, through a price increase, is just not on!
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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

The World Cup next year might be ITVs trump card...
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The World Cup next year might be ITVs trump card...

Only for viewers with no recourse to freeview, freesat, sky, BT tv or terrestrial

Probably an insignificant minority.
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The World Cup next year might be ITVs trump card...
The World Cup Finals are a protected sporting event which has to be made available free to air by ITV to at least 95% of UK households under the Digital Economy Bill. Virgin Media's 3.8 million TV customers account for nearly 15% of total UK households. Virgin could argue a blackout of ITV on their platform could result in ITV not maintaining their obligation to reach 95% of UK households. Virgin could also argue if ITV start charging a rebroadcast fee, which Virgin have to pass onto their customers, then ITV are not technically delivering the World Cup on a free to air basis on the Virgin Media platform.

I'm sure I'm just looking at this at a very basic level however the Digital Economy Bill was brought in to safe guard key cultural sporting from disappearing behind a paywall and making sure the events are made available easily to the widest possible audience.
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