Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising
03-02-2012, 17:02
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Re: Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising again ahead of Prince William visit
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when we withdraw from Afganistan, get we send some of what remains of the British arms forces to the Falklands!
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Thats nice of you to send our troops, care to volunteer would you ?
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03-02-2012, 19:38
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Re: Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising again ahead of Prince William visit
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Well I agree that the people of the Falklands want to stay British!
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Very big of you.....
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03-02-2012, 22:18
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Re: Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising again ahead of Prince William visit
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Thats nice of you to send our troops, care to volunteer would you ?
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We need to do all we can to defend those Islands!
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03-02-2012, 22:22
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Re: Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising again ahead of Prince William visit
And by "We", you mean "they'.........
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03-02-2012, 22:54
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Re: Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising again ahead of Prince William visit
It's always 'they'. I don't understand. When we discuss what the military should be used for you don't need to be in it to have an opinion. The Falklands in British soil, what is the point of the British army if it's not to defend Britons and their land?
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03-02-2012, 22:59
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Re: Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising again ahead of Prince William visit
But Alan has a history of volunteering our forces in areas not currently in conflict, to support his proposition....
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04-02-2012, 00:09
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Re: Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising again ahead of Prince William visit
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But Alan has a history of volunteering our forces in areas not currently in conflict, to support his proposition....
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In this case it is more of a deterrent aganist Argentina, so that no matter how much they complain about the so called "British Occupation" of the Falklands, they would never dare invade alone, unless the whole of South America were involved...
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04-02-2012, 01:37
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Re: Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising again ahead of Prince William visit
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In this case it is more of a deterrent aganist Argentina, so that no matter how much they complain about the so called "British Occupation" of the Falklands, they would never dare invade alone, unless the whole of South America were involved...
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Like most of your propositions - extremely unlikely to happen....
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04-02-2012, 02:08
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Re: Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising again ahead of Prince William visit
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It's always 'they'. I don't understand. When we discuss what the military should be used for you don't need to be in it to have an opinion.
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That's right, you don't. However, in my experience, the opinion of current or ex servicemen & women counts for far more and is better qualified than that of anyone else.
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The Falklands in British soil
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Again with the opinion. The Falklands being "British soil" is not a given. That is the very crux of the issue at hand. If it were the case that the Falklands had simply detached themselves from Portsmouth or somesuch seaboard element of Britain several hundred years ago and elected to drift south then perhaps you might have a point.
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, what is the point of the British army if it's not to defend Britons and their land?
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Regime change, foreign invasion / occupation, peace keeping - loads of different things in addition to defending "Britons and their land".
If only it were that simple.
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In this case it is more of a deterrent aganist Argentina, so that no matter how much they complain about the so called "British Occupation" of the Falklands, they would never dare invade alone, unless the whole of South America were involved...
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Bonkers. As usual...
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04-02-2012, 08:45
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Re: Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising again ahead of Prince William visit
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That's right, you don't. However, in my experience, the opinion of current or ex servicemen & women counts for far more and is better qualified than that of anyone else.
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Which is a handy way of shutting down debate, that I have seen more and more often recently. Someone debates the merits of an armed intervention and are dismissed because they themselves won't be doing the fighting. The Military has always been at the disposal of the Government and when someone joined the armed forces they follow the orders they are given. That's not to say their views are not important but they are not the only views that matter.
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Again with the opinion. The Falklands being "British soil" is not a given. That is the very crux of the issue at hand. If it were the case that the Falklands had simply detached themselves from Portsmouth or somesuch seaboard element of Britain several hundred years ago and elected to drift south then perhaps you might have a point.
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It's British soil. That is a given. It's people are British and it's owned by Britain. Just because Argentina want it doesn't make it disputed. If France started laying claim to the channel islands we would rightly tell them to go away.
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04-02-2012, 09:22
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Re: Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising again ahead of Prince William visit
The problem i see is that if Argentina would decide to invade which would be a hard 1 the British military hasn't got the capability to take it back again without massive assistance from either nato or just the us navy
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04-02-2012, 09:37
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Re: Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising again ahead of Prince William visit
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We need to do all we can to defend those Islands!
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OK join up and off you go
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But Alan has a history of volunteering our forces in areas not currently in conflict, to support his proposition....
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Hugh may i be as bold to say that should be Fantasies
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Bonkers. As usual...
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04-02-2012, 09:38
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Re: Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising again ahead of Prince William visit
I see what you did there.....
(re bold....)
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04-02-2012, 10:02
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Re: Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising again ahead of Prince William visit
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I see what you did there.....
(re bold....)
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Indeed
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04-02-2012, 10:10
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Re: Falkland Islands: Tensions Rising again ahead of Prince William visit
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The problem i see is that if Argentina would decide to invade which would be a hard 1 the British military hasn't got the capability to take it back again without massive assistance from either nato or just the us navy
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I thought that we were still quite capable.
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