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Old 27-10-2016, 12:09   #511
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It should not be an issue if I choose to describe a candidate who is corrupt and for the record, Trump was not guilty of any threats to women, what he was caught saying in private, 11 years ago was tame in comparison to what I have heard blokes in Night Clubs discuss with their mates and also, what I have heard women say they would like to do to fit blokes they have seen on the dance floor. As for the 11 women who have come forward with all kinds of allegations, I am sure like Trump said, is fiction, orchestrated by the DNC campaign and the media to some extent.
Clinton hasn't been convicted of corruption either. If the defense of Trump's treatment of women is a lack of a criminal conviction and that the women making accusations are liars then why doesn't the defense hold for Clinton?
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Old 27-10-2016, 14:08   #512
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I don't think it matters who gets elected president at this point as congress will make either of them lame duck presidents as they have obama for the last four years. Removing obamacare is not a damaging thing for trump as i haven't heard anything good from those americans i know about it they say it sounded good on the media but real world impact has been very little. One of them has a very bad experience of it after an industrial accident where the right treatment could have got her back to fully fit but because her insurance wasn't sufficient and attempt's to get help from obamacare got her nothing but forms filled and time wasted she's partially disabled.

Trump is a big screw you as far as many americans are concerned and i feel for them they worked, contributed many serving their country and what was their reward banks screwing up repossessing their homes the company's they worked for relocating to mexico or other countries to cut costs leaving them very little. Before 2008 most americans were relatively satisfied but after the level of resentment towards the establishment has sky rocketted to level's rarely seen anywhere. I don't think whether it's trump or clinton it isn't going to be the best thing for the US.
 
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I don't think it matters who gets elected president at this point as congress will make either of them lame duck presidents as they have obama for the last four years..
The Presidenecy is still a very powerful position even with an obstructionist congress (and if it's a Republican congress they'll be less obstructionist). Obama has had a deal with Iran, opened up discussions with Cuba and pushed though a number of executive orders relating to climate change.

The next President will be choosing a Supreme Court Judge too. They'll be very powerful.
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Reminder (to everyone).

Please make sure you remain calm when posting, pause before replying if you have to, some remarks in the last page are a little OTT.
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Old 27-10-2016, 18:15   #515
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Clinton hasn't been convicted of corruption either. If the defense of Trump's treatment of women is a lack of a criminal conviction and that the women making accusations are liars then why doesn't the defense hold for Clinton?
That's simple to answer, Clinton has, 30 years of Political Career History Damien. Trump does not have 30 years of Political Career History. We know he is not a career politician, certainly doesn't speak like one.

Regardless of Clinton not being convicted, it matters not that much, the Wikileak revelation emails clearly indicate corruption and it is not just questionable judgement's that have taken place in Hillary's favor, all a little bit too convenient that there was no convictions, because if there was, she would not be able to run for President.

Now lets ask one question why is there media bias in Hillary's favor, for example if Trump got hecklers at his rallies that he was forced to abandon the event, it would be on the news and stuff like that about Trump has been in the news, but if Hillary gets them, not one sniff.... Thank goodness for Youtube. This video only posted the other day.... was this in the mainstream news ? I didn't see a thing about it...

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That's simple to answer, Clinton has, 30 years of Political Career History Damien. Trump does not have 30 years of Political Career History. We know he is not a career politician, certainly doesn't speak like one.

Regardless of Clinton not being convicted, it matters not that much, the Wikileak revelation emails clearly indicate corruption and it is not just questionable judgement's that have taken place in Hillary's favor, all a little bit too convenient that there was no convictions, because if there was, she would not be able to run for President.

Now lets ask one question why is there media bias in Hillary's favor, for example if Trump got hecklers at his rallies that he was forced to abandon the event, it would be on the news and stuff like that about Trump has been in the news, but if Hillary gets them, not one sniff.... Thank goodness for Youtube. This video only posted the other day.... was this in the mainstream news ? I didn't see a thing about it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1ZjocCJhig
??? I hear 1 guy shouting you are not welcome here.
 
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It does seem most of the mainstream media in the US is being very selective in the stories it runs on the candidates and i agree trump is probably more popular then polling suggests. I'm just not convinced he's that much more popular to get him into office but i think the election will be closer then some think. I'm not sure I'd shout corrupt in relation to clinton as there isn't enough out to fully back that but poor judgement is a valid charge and one she is guilty of, events in benghazi have certainly tainted her with the military and the email fiasco rumbles on and I'm not convinced there isn't more to that issue to come out.

I just feel sorry for the majority of americans who won't be represented by either choice and certainly are not comfortable voting for either one of them. Perhaps this will be the catalyst for a change in US politics as continuing down this path will lead nowhere good.
 
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??? I hear 1 guy shouting you are not welcome here.
There is more than one person shouting, this is so evident. Enough to make HC have to abandon her discussions with the crowd, had this occurred at a Trump rally causing Trump to walk away, it would have been headline news, but nothing mentioned when it is Hillary.

It also looks like she is struggling to raise her voice over the noise of the protesters. Can't tell when this was from, but video was uploaded on 23rd, so might have been filmed recently.
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That's simple to answer, Clinton has, 30 years of Political Career History Damien. Trump does not have 30 years of Political Career History. We know he is not a career politician, certainly doesn't speak like one.
None of those are things you learn not to say after many years of political life. There seems to be a double standard here. For example why is a video of someone working for a Super PAC saying the DNC was involved sufficient grounds to talk of impeachment but Trump himself saying he likes to grab women and you can get away with it if you're famous not? Why is Clinton corrupt for the alleged activities of her foundation but Trump, whose had more serious allegations relating to the foundation and a coming court case over Trump University, not?

Clinton is rightfully having her 30 years in politics examined but Trump seems excused from this business activities being examined because he isn't a politician until now. But they're both going for the same job.

If it's between crooked Clinton and crooked Trump then I'll for one who hasn't being going round making the kind of statements that Trump has.
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There is more than one person shouting, this is so evident. Enough to make HC have to abandon her discussions with the crowd, had this occurred at a Trump rally causing Trump to walk away, it would have been headline news, but nothing mentioned when it is Hillary.

It also looks like she is struggling to raise her voice over the noise of the protesters. Can't tell when this was from, but video was uploaded on 23rd, so might have been filmed recently.
There was only one person shouting "your not welcome here" the rest where shouting Hilary .Seriously Mick i wouldn't be crossing any roads with those blinkers you're wearing ,you're gonna get hurt
 
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Hillary is no angel, but she is a politician, Trump is a ruthless business man and certainly no politician capable of running a country.

Had he been a senator? think might have been different.
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Hillary is no angel, but she is a politician, Trump is a ruthless business man and certainly no politician capable of running a country.

Had he been a senator? think might have been different.
That's the big issue here ,the American public are in danger of putting a racist ,bigoted,sexist a hole with absolutely no experience in charge of the most powerful and influential country in the world .It won't end well
 
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Hillary is no angel, but she is a politician, Trump is a ruthless business man and certainly no politician capable of running a country.

Had he been a senator? think might have been different.
You're echoing boring Media soundbites.

Having the title 'Politician' doesn't necessarily mean your ace at being a Politician.
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Donald trump is rumour to have a TV channel lined up to launch called Trump.TV, but he didn't by the website.

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There was only one person shouting "your not welcome here" the rest where shouting Hilary .Seriously Mick i wouldn't be crossing any roads with those blinkers you're wearing ,you're gonna get hurt
No I won't. I stand defiant.

I repeat, there is two people shouting, a girl starts shouting first and then a young man chimes in accusing her of all kinds of shenanigans. Listen to it again.

Regardless if it is one, two or ten people, she had to abruptly end her talk with the crowd, so my point earlier about media bias still stands.
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