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Old 11-11-2017, 09:54   #31
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Then we don't allow a select few to own all the machines and the wealth generated from them.
A luddite rebellion. That's worked in the past.
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A luddite rebellion. That's worked in the past.
Doesn't have to a luddite one, I am saying we make sure we all gain from the technology and embrace it.
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Doesn't have to a luddite one, I am saying we make sure we all gain from the technology and embrace it.
BigCorp doesn't seem awfully keen to do that right now. They just want to get bigger, richer and more powerful without too much thought for anything else.

On a day to day level, I'm trying to do my bit by refusing to bank online or use those pesky self service tills even when directed to them by the very staff whose jobs they'll eventually replace unless we do something about this. Once enough of us stop going to our local banks (but possibly sooner) they'll close, the jobs will be lost and we'll have even more empty units in our high streets...

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BigCorp doesn't seem awfully keen to do that right now. They just want to get bigger, richer and more powerful without too much thought for anything else.
That's what governments are for. I don't really know the complete solution or what's going to happen but controlling what happens rather than trying to stop seems to be the better course.
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That's what governments are for. I don't really know the complete solution or what's going to happen but controlling what happens rather than trying to stop seems to be the better course.
... and the bigger/richer these companies are the more influence they have over the governments that might seek to control them. Not the same I know but just look at the influence the NRA has over politics in the US. At what point do giant corporations become too big to govern? Have some already reached that point?
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... and the bigger/richer these companies are the more influence they have over the governments that might seek to control them. Not the same I know but just look at the influence the NRA has over politics in the US. At what point do giant corporations become too big to govern? Have some already reached that point?
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Yes and how many of our leading politicians wind up serving and beholden to these giant companies in one way or another?
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Old 11-11-2017, 11:33   #40
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Fortunately, I think this is not likely to be an issue for me.

I have retirement in my sights, hopefully sooner than the state retirement age (which they kindly moved).
i've already taken the plunge i resigned from my job in march now living off 2 company pensions have a third pension pot that i haven't acted on yet and of course there's the state pension when i reach that age i didn't want to be one of those who retires and then immediately dies stress at work was getting ridiculous so off i went , i have spent a lot of time on my boat cruising the broads and generally chilling out got a new grandchild on the way things are going well .
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Yes and how many of our leading politicians wind up serving and beholden to these giant companies in one way or another?
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i've already taken the plunge i resigned from my job in march now living off 2 company pensions have a third pension pot that i haven't acted on yet and of course there's the state pension when i reach that age i didn't want to be one of those who retires and then immediately dies stress at work was getting ridiculous so off i went , i have spent a lot of time on my boat cruising the broads and generally chilling out got a new grandchild on the way things are going well .
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Re: Where are we all going to work?

Maybe there should be a limit on number of employees per company.

Either way, it's pretty clear that neither socialism nor captialism are going to work - and once it becomes a truly global system, people will be calling for a truly global authority and then everyone had better obey or else.
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Re: Where are we all going to work?

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BigCorp doesn't seem awfully keen to do that right now. They just want to get bigger, richer and more powerful without too much thought for anything else.
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Yes and how many of our leading politicians wind up serving and beholden to these giant companies in one way or another?
In days gone by the rich have got richer and taken an ever increasing portion of the cake, whilst the average person has been happy with a enough crumbs to buy an average house & car, raise a family and go on holiday for two weeks a year.

The trouble is that the rich now want to even keep some of the crumbs for themselves too which is causing allsorts of problems and anomalies as awareness & resentment increases.
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