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Old 16-12-2017, 08:25   #1321
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What was this BS from the EU all this time about the clock is ticking?

Trade talks now won’t start still March, the EU is so full of Lying & Scheming toe rags.
The EU have made the point that they can't start until the government has agreed what they want in a deal.
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Old 16-12-2017, 09:39   #1322
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Can you not see any positives at all with Brexit, Andrew?
I just started the main one - we won't be paying career MEP Nigel Farage a salary.
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Old 16-12-2017, 09:49   #1323
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What was this BS from the EU all this time about the clock is ticking?

Trade talks now won’t start still March, the EU is so full of Lying & Scheming toe rags.
It’s because the unaccountable, corrupt unelected bureaucarts need to consult and have guidelines signed off by the member states.

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Can you not see any positives at all with Brexit, Andrew?
We did this one a while back where I asked people to take the opposite point. For me, the EU lacks agility due to its size and the restrictive rules on setting VAT were bad (see the ‘tampon tax’)

When I asked our leave friends to name something good about the EU, we got answers like ‘nothing’ and ‘we’re leaving’
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Old 16-12-2017, 09:49   #1324
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The EU have made the point that they can't start until the government has agreed what they want in a deal.
So, talks will formally begin in March 2018 once Theresa May has got her cabinet to agree what they want from a deal. Is the idea that these talks will last after March 2019 when we leave the EU and end sometime in 2021?
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Old 16-12-2017, 10:44   #1325
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Meanwhile in the Eurolalaland utopia it's great to see there's no sign of any trend towards the right wing amongst all those welcoming Austrians we heard so much about...

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If the coalition is ratified, Austria would become the only western European state with a governing far-right party.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42374693

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Old 16-12-2017, 10:51   #1326
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When I asked our leave friends to name something good about the EU, we got answers like ‘nothing’ and ‘we’re leaving’
Yes, I remember that well.
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Old 16-12-2017, 10:56   #1327
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What was this BS from the EU all this time about the clock is ticking?

Trade talks now won’t start still March, the EU is so full of Lying & Scheming toe rags.
aye it the EU's fault our government have no idea what it wants and not even discussed it yet like

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Old 16-12-2017, 11:05   #1328
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aye it the EU's fault our government have no idea what it wants and not even discussed it yet like
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Old 16-12-2017, 13:04   #1329
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aye it the EU's fault our government have no idea what it wants and not even discussed it yet like
It does not take 3 months to decide. So just shows this remark from the EU about the clock is ticking, was a steaming pile of BS from the EU, as usual.
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Old 16-12-2017, 13:12   #1330
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It does not take 3 months to decide. So just shows this remark from the EU about the clock is ticking, was a steaming pile of BS from the EU, as usual.
em they had 18 month to decide like and they party is more split that ever
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Old 16-12-2017, 13:50   #1331
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em they had 18 month to decide like and they party is more split that ever
Both the main parties are split, Dave. 18 months may seem a long time, but this whole business is subject to a very tight timetable.

The government does know what it wants, but getting the wording right so it doesn't upset one faction or another is a nightmare.

Given that TM doesn't have a majority in the House of Commons, I think she is doing a brilliant job. Many did not think we'd get this far.
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It does not take 3 months to decide. So just shows this remark from the EU about the clock is ticking, was a steaming pile of BS from the EU, as usual.
Looks like it will have taken the tardy British cabinet a staggering 21 months to decide but I'm sure if they decide earlier then the accommodating EU will be happy to meet them!
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Looks like it will have taken the tardy British cabinet a staggering 21 months to decide but I'm sure if they decide earlier then the accommodating EU will be happy to meet them!
You tell such great jokes, Andrew.

I mean, 'accommodating EU'! Priceless!
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Old 16-12-2017, 14:06   #1334
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Both the main parties are split, Dave. 18 months may seem a long time, but this whole business is subject to a very tight timetable.

The government does know what it wants, but getting the wording right so it doesn't upset one faction or another is a nightmare.

Given that TM doesn't have a majority in the House of Commons, I think she is doing a brilliant job. Many did not think we'd get this far.
yes both paries are split but tories are split the most

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Old 16-12-2017, 15:36   #1335
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You tell such great jokes, Andrew.

I mean, 'accommodating EU'! Priceless!
I wouldn't call it priceless, I'd call it a £44bn joke!

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You are confusing what the EU wants with what they will get, Andrew.

Whereas Corbyn in his weakness might well agree to that, Theresa will insist either:

1. That the ECJ ceases to apply to the UK after Brexit or

2. That the UK will continue to be involved in EU law as it applies to us during the transitional period.
I'm afraid that you are confusing what you want with the reality of the EU's strong negotiating position.
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"In a word, yes," said the Chancellor.
https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-tr...-says-11172610
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