Pensions - no wonder there are strikes

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Osem

Whereas you just need to think full stop!

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It's like arguing with a child isn't it.....

The only people who argue like children are people who defend and promote a failed economic, social and poltical system

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

And in Alan's fantasy world, he will be a communist dictator

For GOD SAKE, I am not a communist

They are not defending anything - they are challenging your nonsensical postings.

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Hugh

So are all the pension companies (Teachers, NHS, Local Government) and Unite (and Unison, who say the same thing on their website) lying? Because their facts appear to contradict the FBU facts.

So I am misunderstanding the 60/68 statement - can you help clarify it, please - will firemen retire at 60, or not?

Each union talks about things that concern their members. Firefighters are in a completely different situation to teachers, NHS, local government workers, etc..

So what your union tells you will apply to you. Don't try and apply what the FBU say to yourself, because that simply won't work.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Osem

Apparently I just don't get it.

Well I'd be severely worried about my sanity if any of his 'arguments' made sense to me...

Anyway his reluctance to redistribute some of his wealth to the poor are duly noted and should be borne in mind each time we're subjected to one of his sermons....

I pay all my taxes and I have made it clear why I do not give to charity, becuase it does not make a diffence, becuase so much money is wasted on corruption etc

This is nothing more that a attempt by the defenders of a failed system to move the agurement away from the real issues!

The trouble with you lot is that you are lying to yourselfs!

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

No Alan, your plan is in cloud cukoo land, along with your airport.

The only people on cloud cukoo land are defenders of a failed economic, social and poltical system

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Originally Posted by Hugh

They are not defending anything - they are challenging your nonsensical postings.

The only people with nonsensical postings are defenders of a failed system

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

For GOD SAKE, I am not a communist

Most of your rants promote communist ideals. In fact even Twitter has 'The Communist Party UK' as 'Similar to Alan Fry'.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

Most of your rants promote communist ideals. In fact even Twitter has 'The Communist Party UK' as 'Similar to Alan Fry'.

Yes, but I do not 100% agree with them, like sending people to prison camps, freedom of speech and the fact they are against Israel and these days they are now with Islamists (e.g. Respect)

I am not a Communist, Facist or any other form of poltical and relgious extremism!

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

I pay all my taxes and I have made it clear why I do not give to charity, becuase it does not make a diffence, becuase so much money is wasted on corruption etc

This is nothing more that a attempt by the defenders of a failed system to move the agurement away from the real issues!

The trouble with you lot is that you are lying to yourselfs!

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The only people on cloud cukoo land are defenders of a failed economic, social and poltical system

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The only people with nonsensical postings are defenders of a failed system

Nobody is defending the failed economic system. You need to get that into your head Alan. But there are ways of doing things that would work, and there are ways that won't. And you have to use common sense to work out which will work...something you don't seem to use with many of your ideas.

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Yes, but I do not 100% agree with them, like sending people to prison camps, freedom of speech and the fact they are against Israel and these days they are now with Islamists (e.g. Respect)

You are talking about one communist country, not communist ideals. But many of your rants follow communits ideals.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

I pay all my taxes and I have made it clear why I do not give to charity, becuase it does not make a diffence, becuase so much money is wasted on corruption etc

Here's a novel idea, when you're next allowed out to play why not go find some homeless or needy people and give to them direct? Food, clothing, anything they need. Give them somewhere to sleep in your house even.....or is that too open to 'corruption' for you? You're successful, practice what you preach and share your wealth.

BTW I don't suppose your 'world government' would be in any way subject to corruption would it? I mean there'd be no opposition, nobody to blow the whistle or stand in opposition. Sounds like a perfect recipe for nepotism and corruption to me.......

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Osem

Here's a novel idea, when you're next allowed out to play why not go find some homeless or needy people and give to them direct? Food, clothing, anything they need. Give them somewhere to sleep in your house even.....or is that too open to 'corruption' for you? You're successful, practice what you preach and share your wealth.

BTW I don't suppose your 'world government' would be in any way subject to corruption would it? I mean there'd be no opposition, nobody to blow the whistle or stand in opposition. Sounds like a perfect recipe for nepotism and corruption to me.......

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

Nobody is defending the failed economic system. You need to get that into your head Alan. But there are ways of doing things that would work, and there are ways that won't. And you have to use common sense to work out which will work...something you don't seem to use with many of your ideas.

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You are talking about one communist country, not communist ideals. But many of your rants follow communits ideals.

I am talking about the Far-Left in gernral (most of which are also anti-EU) not the the Communist Party of the UK

I do not want to abolish Capitlism and Democracy, but they should be radically reformed!

The only people without common sense are defenders of a failed system

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

I am not a Communist, Facist or any other form of poltical and relgious extremism!

Who said anything about religion???

Although you are an extremist, as your Twitter and Facebook posts clearly show.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

Who said anything about religion???

Although you are an extremist, as your Twitter and Facebook posts clearly show.

Yes with all those rants, insults, incitements and hypocritical ramblings, how on earth does he find time to run that massive transport organisation he's in charge of I wonder?

(unless of course it's really just a trainset on his bedroom floor...... )

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Osem

Yes with all those rants, insults, incitements and hypocritical ramblings, how on earth does he find time to run that massive transport organisation he's in charge of I wonder?

(unless of course it's really just a trainset on his bedroom floor...... )

I think you have hit the nail on the head

His idea of a world goverment is for a model world in his bedroom. And I've just figured out something....he only has room for one airport in his bedroom.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Osem

Here's a novel idea, when you're next allowed out to play why not go find some homeless or needy people and give to them direct? Food, clothing, anything they need. Give them somewhere to sleep in your house even.....or is that too open to 'corruption' for you? You're successful, practice what you preach and share your wealth.

BTW I don't suppose your 'world government' would be in any way subject to corruption would it? I mean there'd be no opposition, nobody to blow the whistle or stand in opposition. Sounds like a perfect recipe for nepotism and corruption to me.......

I do give money to the homeless and direct them to charities, but the money of the rich will make a much bigger diffrence tham me alone

Also under a "World government" I will make it clear that we are in power not for our sake, nut for the sake for Humans and Earth. There will still be a independent media (all under the BBC), if they find sometihng wrong, they can report it

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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

Who said anything about religion???

Although you are an extremist, as your Twitter and Facebook posts clearly show.

I am not a extremist, i have not anything in relation to communism and facism, all I have said Is that we need radcial reform to democracy and capitalism via democratic means or not

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

The only people without common sense are defenders of a failed system

Nobody in here is defending either this government, or even the provious government. In fact if you follow many peoples posts you will see that most of us realise how we got into this mess.

However none of us are suggesting violence, murder, riots, or terrorism, unlike you do.