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Old 17-03-2017, 14:44   #811
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Starting to think that Mick either works for trump or is Spicer in disguise
Well I don't: I am entitled to a differing opinion AND I am also entitled to sit on the fence and not follow stuff so blindly.
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Old 17-03-2017, 15:05   #812
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Well I don't: I am entitled to a differing opinion AND I am also entitled to sit on the fence and not follow stuff so blindly.
Following stuff blindly is the problem Mick.

As for sitting on the fence....
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Old 17-03-2017, 15:23   #813
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Well I don't: I am entitled to a differing opinion AND I am also entitled to sit on the fence and not follow stuff so blindly.
Mick, I doubt you can be accused by anyone of sitting on the fence! You are firmly behind Trump's wall.
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Old 17-03-2017, 15:36   #814
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Following stuff blindly is the problem Mick.
Not by me it's not.

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Mick, I doubt you can be accused by anyone of sitting on the fence! You are firmly behind Trump's wall.
Rubbish. I just don't side with all the negative hysteria on him, nor do I chase all the negative stories on him like you and others do on here.

All I cared about was that Hillary Clinton lost, she did and that satisfies me, greatly.
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Old 17-03-2017, 15:38   #815
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Rubbish. I just don't side with all the negative hysteria on him, nor do I chase all the negative stories on him like you and others do on here.
All I cared about was that Hillary Clinton lost, she did and that satisfies me, greatly.
OK. But returning to my question, if the White House was going to hand over evidence that GCHQ had spied on Trump in the next couple of days* then why would it today state that it will not repeat the allegations?
* 20/3/17 is the deadline for evidence to the Senate Committee investigating the phone-tapping allegations.
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OK. But returning to my question, if the White House was going to hand over evidence that GCHQ had spied on Trump in the next couple of days* then why would it today state that it will not repeat the allegations?
* 20/3/17 is the deadline for evidence to the Senate Committee investigating the phone-tapping allegations.
Who said they was going to hand over any such evidence ?

All Sean Spicer did yesterday was quote, what a news commentator/anchor had accused British Intelligence Services of doing.
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Who said they was going to hand over any such evidence ?.
Not sure if anyone promised it but the White House asked congress to investigate to which congress asked for evidence or at least somewhere to start. Hence the deadline. Additionally some Republican congressmen are saying they'll withhold approving some members of the cabinet until the WH provides that evidence.
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Not sure if anyone promised it but the White House asked congress to investigate to which congress asked for evidence or at least somewhere to start. Hence the deadline. Additionally some Republican congressmen are saying they'll withhold approving some members of the cabinet until the WH provides that evidence.
Spicer was on his fact-free diet again yesterday:
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Asked whether the White House would ensure such evidence was made available, Mr Spicer sought to dodge the question. When reporters continued to press him, he said “I feel very confident” that such information would be made available.
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Old 17-03-2017, 17:26   #819
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

Perhaps the White House and the President should only tweet things that have been validated, not repeat things they have heard on TV.

You know, what with the 17 US Intelligence Agencies, with a +$50 billion a year budget, perhaps they might supply them with, oh, I don't know, daily briefings....
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

There's clearly a media bias but that doesn't get highlighted or resolved with silliness of the sort we have had for the last couple of months and I'm curious if this was someone else blathering out stuff as Trump and his group have if Trump would have accepted it as fact with no substantiating evidence. I doubt he would and that is what irks me most about what's going on he's behaving in a way he'd never have accepted from anyone else but expects us to just accept it and go along with it. I too am very happy that Clinton lost she would have been a disaster likely for all of us and i am glad one of the usual politicos didn't win but I'm getting a bit tired of this dog and pony show that's currently pervasive in the white house.

The U.S.A is too big a player to have this going on and while domestically it may be a distraction and little more right now it's got to be eroding confidence internationally in the leadership and that is a big concern. Trump needs to start appearing competent and able to do the job if nothing else.
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Old 17-03-2017, 18:14   #821
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Well I don't: I am entitled to a differing opinion AND I am also entitled to sit on the fence and not follow stuff so blindly.
It's important to note the statement that we don't spy on the US:
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The PM's spokesman said it would not be possible for GCHQ to spy on Mr Trump as both countries are members of the Five Eyes alliance, a joint intelligence co-operation agreement which also includes Australia, Canada and New Zealand.
"I would add, just as a matter of fact, with the Five Eyes pact, we cannot use each other's capabilities to circumvent laws," he said.
"It's a situation that simply wouldn't arise."
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Old 17-03-2017, 18:48   #822
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Well apparently the White House is now saying they never apologised to No 10 so either they're lying or No 10 is lying and we're now back to the WH citing Fox News that we hacked Trump!

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Trump has also repeated the accusation that Obama hacked his phone (unless it was a joke, only read the text).
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Old 17-03-2017, 19:05   #823
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Trump has also repeated the accusation that Obama hacked his phone (unless it was a joke, only read the text).

I think he was referring to Merkel's phone being taped (he motioned to Merkel when answering)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7HIFCwnPXQ


Starts at 1:17 in that particular bit around 1:40 in
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Trump has also repeated the accusation that Obama hacked his phone (unless it was a joke, only read the text).
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An unrepentant Donald Trump refused to retract accusations the UK spied on his presidential campaign last year, saying the White House was only repeating reports from a “talented legal mind” when it publicly aired the allegations.
Despite efforts by senior administration officials to placate an angry ally by reassuring Downing Street it would not repeat accusations, Mr Trump showed no regret about the actions of Sean Spicer, the White House spokesman who read out the allegations during his televised briefing on Thursday.
“We said nothing,” Mr Trump said at a news conference. “All we did is quote a very talented legal mind,” citing a legal analyst on Fox News. Brushing aside potential damage to its closest intelligence relationship, Mr Spicer added: “I don’t think we regret anything.”
The hardline stance came despite a “private conversation” between Sir Kim Darroch, Britain’s ambassador to Washington, and Mr Spicer on Thursday and a separate phone call between the two countries’ national security advisers that were characterised as full of “regret and contrition” by those briefed on the exchanges.
https://www.ft.com/content/6ec3dfca-...a-903b21361b43 "Trump unrepentant in wake of UK spying accusations"

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Old 17-03-2017, 20:22   #825
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

Can a US president be impeached for being insane, or is that a loophole in the Constitution?

'Not repeat the accusation' very big of them, we should grow a pair and demand a total retraction, or he doesn't​ get to visit Queenie (bet she's really looking forward​ to it too...)
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