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Old 07-10-2011, 22:13   #16
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Could do most duct I'd imagine will fit 2x 22mm mdpe pipes inside the duct then run cable through each, technically separate ducts then lol
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Old 09-10-2011, 11:42   #18
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Re: Frustrating installation woes - BT have annexed my trunking!?

What your referring to is "sub duct", this is used for core network transmission
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Re: Frustrating installation woes - BT have annexed my trunking!?

yep, but doesnt it satisfy the requirements for individual ducts?
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Re: Frustrating installation woes - BT have annexed my trunking!?

Many thanks for the advice guys, you are all most helpful. The consensus seems to be that I'm screwed, which wasn't the answer I hoped for - nevertheless at least I know where I stand now.
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How are you screwed? Shove 2 sub ducts inside the duct one for each cable problem solved and each cable has it's own duct
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Re: Frustrating installation woes - BT have annexed my trunking!?

And if you can't get the BT cable into a duct then just cut 2 short lengths of duct, slice down lengthways, wrap round the cable and then secure to the other empty duct so that it looks like it's in its own duct
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Re: Frustrating installation woes - BT have annexed my trunking!?

The duct is certainly wide enough for two narrower pipes - it looks like 40mm plastic plumbing to me. Under the ground it must have 90 degree joins though, it goes straight down at one end, straight up at the other, and the run must be >15 meters. I don't see how I would get two smaller ducts in there. OK, I'm not the most practical of people, there may be methods I haven't considered.
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Re: Frustrating installation woes - BT have annexed my trunking!?

It depends on the severity of the bend, it might go straight down, but the bend could have a fair arch on it. There's not much chance of it being a straight 90 degree bend as the cable has to follow the arch and pulling a cable past a 90 degree bend is asking for trouble.

The only way to tell would be to get a length of pipe and give it a push down to see if it can get past the bend. You'll probably find if you get some that's flexible enough it'll have no issues with it.
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Re: Frustrating installation woes - BT have annexed my trunking!?

Is garden hose an option?
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Re: Frustrating installation woes - BT have annexed my trunking!?

So correct me if I'm wrong, a BT 40 pair cable isnt individually shielded?

If the builder supplied the conduit then it isnt BT property, who gave them permission to use it? They should remove their cable and supply their own?

What is your ADSL like? We were begging for VM to install here as we had sub 2M ADSL ith 2K phone line length! Took 3 years but eventually we have nice fast broadband!

Can you not route through the neighbours property (maybe put in a new duct for you both if they are interested?)

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Another option is to dig the existing trunking back a few inches/feet then replace with 2 seperate smaller ducts at both ends. Make sure you leave a rope to pull the new cable, then to the casual observer it looks like 2 seperate ducts!

Not really allowed, but depends on how much you want the VM install!!
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