U.S President: Donald Trump

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mick

Not a chance, I can't stand the man, he is a liar, like some others who reside in his party.

I would also have to contest the popular part, he has far from delivered on the promises he made during his Mayoral Election.

He's in good company with the donald then, what is deliberate misinterpretation if it isn't an attempt to lie and deceive and I'd say Kahn is quite popular, he won the popular vote after all which is something old trumped up couldn't manage, perhaps that's why he doesn't like him.

Originally Posted by Damien

It is out of order for the head of another country to use the terrroist attack as a chance to have a go at an elected official here but that's Trump for you. He isn't endearing themselves to Londoners ahead of his state visit.

He's a class act and if corbyn turned round and said if elected he'd cancel his state visit I'd vote for him, actually if any of them promised that it'd secure my vote, I'd even vote kipper again

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Mick

Not a chance, I can't stand the man, he is a liar, like some others who reside in his party.

Enough about Trump, what about Mayor Khan?

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Damien

Ahh InfoWars. Where the little girls who were murdered by a terrorist at 'liberal trendies'. I remember pre-Trump when they believed terrorist attacks were false flag operations by the Western government, remarkable how they're now the number one threat to civilisation.

I am no fan of infowars. Alex Jones' voice and rants are enough to put me off! But the lists are what they are; Trumps achievements.


Strangely enough, I did watch this the other day about Bohemian Grove. Apparently, it is referenced in the latest season of House of cards, which I haven't started watching yet. It is a joint Channel 4/Infowars production, from 17 years ago where they infiltrated the Bohemian Grove yearly bash of some of the elites, where they meddle with the occult; mock human sacrifice etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPjGJ9PufaQ

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

He's a class act and if corbyn turned round and said if elected he'd cancel his state visit I'd vote for him, actually if any of them promised that it'd secure my vote, I'd even vote kipper again

I still think it's a mistake for May to believe that Trump is anything other than a self-serving narcissist who'll throw the UK under the bus the moment he perceives that doing so will serve his own interests even in the most minor way. Look how the White House didn't dismiss, in fact even helped amplify, the allegations that GCHQ was hacking him on behalf of Obama.

A terrorist attack occurs in London and he tweets abuse directed at the Mayor of London and misquotes him. Yet London is still meant to roll out the red carpet for this guy?

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Originally Posted by passingbat

Strangely enough, I did watch this the other day about Bohemian Grove. Apparently, it is referenced in the latest season of House of cards, which I haven't started watching yet. It is a joint Channel 4/Infowars production, from 17 years ago where they infiltrated the Bohemian Grove yearly bash of some of the elites, where the meddle with the occult; mock human sacrifice etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPjGJ9PufaQ

It's not a joint Infowars production. It's probably their own documentary that they cut in C4 stuff.

I am a big fan of the author that went in with him to Bohemian Grove, Jon Ronson, and he disputes a lot of Alex Jones account. It was actually Ronson who was the reason they went in as he was researching for the book 'Them', and it's worth reading.

Alex Jones has changed a lot. His big break come from the 9/11 truther movement that said it was a false flag. He and Paul Jospeh Watson, who I am assuming you'll also be familiar with, spent their time in that world. It's strange to now those conspiracies have shifted to believing that these attacks are real (which of course they are). They've successfully latched onto this alt-right movement and were big proponents of the Obama birther stuff. It's an interesting dynamic.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Damien

It's not a joint Infowars production. It's probably their own documentary that they cut in C4 stuff.

I am a big fan of the author that went in with him to Bohemian Grove, Jon Ronson, and he disputes a lot of Alex Jones account. It was actually Ronson who was the reason they went in as he was researching for the book 'Them', and it's worth reading.

Alex Jones has changed a lot. His big break come from the 9/11 truther movement that said it was a false flag. He and Paul Jospeh Watson, who I am assuming you'll also be familiar with, spent their time in that world. It's strange to now those conspiracies have shifted to believing that these attacks are real (which of course they are). They've successfully latched onto this alt-right movement and were big proponents of the Obama birther stuff. It's an interesting dynamic.

The documentary shows the channel 4 people actually with Alex jones and the 0ccult ritual was filmed. Have you actually seen the documentary that I posted?

Originally Posted by passingbat

The documentary shows the channel 4 people actually with Alex jones and the 0ccult ritual was filmed. Have you actually seen the documentary that I posted?

I didn't watch the video you've just posted but I am well aware of the documentary Channel 4 did with Alex Jones and Bohemian Grove.

Alex Jones was the subject of their documentary, but he wasn't otherwise involved with the production. It was Jon Ronson who was making that documentary and writing his book. It was an episode of this documentary series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Se...adowy_Elite.3F and Infowars are not involved in the production of that documentary series.

Here is the documentary they made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0p-e2ng0SI

Now Alex Jones was probably doing this own one whilst they were filming but the production doesn't involve Channel 4, they're there because they were filming the one I've linked to above.

The documentary you've linked is not produced by Channel 4. It's Infowars alone.

Originally Posted by ianch99

Enough about Trump, what about Mayor Khan?

Misrepresenting my posts tut tut.

[Stephen]

What? It was an attempt at humour? Nothing was misrepresented.

Trumps recent tweets not only about London but other things show just how much of a self serving totally bully and loat he actually is.

Taking part of a quote and taking it out of context. Not once but twice. I thought was just dumb. However that shows him to be rather spiteful and a silly man.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Damien

Here is the documentary they made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0p-e2ng0SI

Now Alex Jones was probably doing this own one whilst they were filming but the production doesn't involve Channel 4, they're there because they were filming the one I've linked to above.

The documentary you've linked is not produced by Channel 4. It's Infowars alone.

I watched that documentary the other; it was alongside the one I posted as related.


The Infowars one I linked to, which included CH4 camera men is a different kettle of fish. It shows (on film) that some elites are involved with the Occult in mock human sacrifice, summoning un-godly spirits.


This shouldn't surprise us; Sir Francis Bacon and the New Atlantians consulted angels, which would mean, in fact, fallen angels. They became associated with the highest ranks of the Scottish Rite Freemasons, which today are the 33rd degree Masons. Regular Masons are unaware of this aspect.


There is a detailed analysis of the connections between 33 degree masons, the occult, some of America's Founding father's and the NWO here. The videos mentioned in the article can be found on Youtube


https://www.newswithviews.com/Horn/thomas110.htm

Originally Posted by Stephen

What? It was an attempt at humour? Nothing was misrepresented.

Rubbish. I should know what was misrepresented. My post was misrepresented by Ianch. I was talking about Khan being a liar in that post that Ianch99 quoted from and he used it and misrepresented, if it was meant to be funny, I must have forgot to laugh.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Mick

Misrepresenting my posts tut tut.

It was a joke! The way you phrased your reply, just couldn't resist Jeez, you got to walk on eggshells around here now ..

Trump is not doing himself any favours and it's worrying that he is not adapting to his position excuses can only be made for so long before the man has to accept he's doing it wrong.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Trump is not doing himself any favours and it's worrying that he is not adapting to his position excuses can only be made for so long before the man has to accept he's doing it wrong.

What is he doing wrong?

Presentation, representing things accurately he is making very stupid mistakes for a supposedly experienced man of the business world. I am still hoping he rises to the challenge of the presidency and becomes a good one as we desperately need a new type of politician but putting your head in the sand in relation to his poor performance is not doing anyone or anything any good.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Stephen

What? It was an attempt at humour? Nothing was misrepresented.

Trumps recent tweets not only about London but other things show just how much of a self serving totally bully and loat he actually is.

Taking part of a quote and taking it out of context. Not once but twice. I thought was just dumb. However that shows him to be rather spiteful and a silly man.

Absolutely. When he's in a hole he just seems to dig himself in further. Don't think its a case of bad advisers, he either doesn't take advice, or they're too afraid to give it. Danger is he'll tweet about a country that isn't as subservient as us and cause real trouble.
If we have any national pride, whichever govt. that gets elected should withdraw his poxy invite.