General Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017) - Page 27

theone2k10 · 28-01-2017, 17:45

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Apparantly, Sky are telling their customers that "BT & Virgin are letting Discovery go as well" according to their Twitter feed.

Link please or screenshot as can't see nothing like that on their twitter feed.
See planty of dirty tactics from Discovery and vm though.
Not saying SKY aren't saying that, just can't see it on their feed.
Also worth noting and this surprised me tbh SKY have actually told Discovery that Discover or Eurosport does not have to be in a SKY package to be on the SKY platform.
The plot thickens.

RichardCoulter · 28-01-2017, 18:01

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Originally Posted by theone2k10

Link please or screenshot as can't see nothing like that on their twitter feed.
See planty of dirty tactics from Discovery and vm though.
Not saying SKY aren't saying that, just can't see it on their feed.
Also worth noting and this surprised me tbh SKY have actually told Discovery that Discover or Eurosport does not have to be in a SKY package to be on the SKY platform.
The plot thickens.

It's what a customer claims she was told as opposed to Sky openly saying this.

Sky are technically correct in that the Discovery channels could stay on the Sky platform as Free To Air, Free To View or standalone subscription channels.

How viable this would be as a business model is another question...

theone2k10 · 28-01-2017, 18:08

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

It's what a customer claims she was told as opposed to Sky openly saying this.

Sky are technically correct in that the Discovery channels could stay on the Sky platform as Free To Air, Free To View or standalone subscription channels.

How viable this would be as a business model is another question...

Discovery have form for this behaviour they did the same in Norway, Romania and Germany, they really aren't doing themselves any favours also it's quite pathetic of them to go to social media to get SKY customers to pressure SKY i hope SKY stick to their guns.
Talktalk have certainly stuck to their guns with Discovery.
VM and BT should stop being so cocky too as their turn will come soon enough to negotiate with Discovery.

nodrogd · 28-01-2017, 18:36

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

It's what a customer claims she was told as opposed to Sky openly saying this.

Sky are technically correct in that the Discovery channels could stay on the Sky platform as Free To Air, Free To View or standalone subscription channels.

How viable this would be as a business model is another question...

Quest is FTA anyway via Freeview. It hasn't appeared on FTA satellite, but this may be due to the sports coverage overflow from Eurosport. Discovery was on cable long before it arrived on satellite via Sky. Not to mention that all the channels are Pan-European so have an audiance that extends far beyond the UK/Ireland.

Discovery have seperate agreements with Virgin & BT, & clearly state on their website that only Sky customers are affected:

http://www.keepdiscovery.co.uk/faq/

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I know that Sky are lying, however, i've been told that VM get their HD feeds by fibre and SD feeds via the satellite.

Can't remember if it was an SD or a HD channel that I was watching on VM last night, but the ticker advice for Sky customers appeared at the top (think it was Discovery Science).

I don't think that this has a HD variant, so perhaps this explains why the ticker is being shown to VM customers??

Could this mean that for technical reasons, as opposed to the Sky/Discovery dispute itself, that we will lose access to the SD Discovery channels from the 1st February??

Anything going through the Discovery channels UK output suite will appear on all customers TV's. They cannot add it seperately to the satellite uplink. HD channels are fibre fed & VM has access to several distribution satellites which the channels could also use. Also, as with the BT Sports channels, there is nothing to stop them using the Astra transponders privately for distribution & giving reception cards to Virgin, even as a short term solution.

28-01-2017, 19:06

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Originally Posted by theone2k10

Discovery have form for this behaviour they did the same in Norway, Romania and Germany, they really aren't doing themselves any favours also it's quite pathetic of them to go to social media to get SKY customers to pressure SKY i hope SKY stick to their guns.
Talktalk have certainly stuck to their guns with Discovery.
VM and BT should stop being so cocky too as their turn will come soon enough to negotiate with Discovery.

Is John Malone involved in Discovery, VM may find it easier to negotiate with them if he is?

denphone · 28-01-2017, 19:15

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Originally Posted by Mr Banana

Is John Malone involved in Discovery, VM may find it easier to negotiate with them if he is?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Malone

28-01-2017, 19:22

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Originally Posted by denphone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Malone

Thanks Denphone - looks like he owns 29%

denphone · 28-01-2017, 19:24

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Originally Posted by Mr Banana

Thanks Denphone - looks like he owns 29%

Yes which is quite a considerable stake Mr B.

theone2k10 · 28-01-2017, 19:34

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Originally Posted by denphone

Yes which is quite a considerable stake Mr B.

Indeed it is but discoverys behavioyr could make things very difficult for malones companies in the future we all know what SKY are like and they will likely retaliate by making negotiations difficult for vm in 2019 and this could include fox, nat geo channels too.
Then say if Discovery pull the same crap to BT, BT could retaliate too when negotiations for BT sports come around.
End of the day it's going to get very messy and there will only be one loser and that is us the consumer.

spiderplant · 28-01-2017, 19:45

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Could this mean that for technical reasons, as opposed to the Sky/Discovery dispute itself, that we will lose access to the SD Discovery channels from the 1st February??

No, VM will not be losing any Discovery channels

28-01-2017, 20:12

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Originally Posted by theone2k10

Indeed it is but discoverys behavioyr could make things very difficult for malones companies in the future we all know what SKY are like and they will likely retaliate by making negotiations difficult for vm in 2019 and this could include fox, nat geo channels too.
Then say if Discovery pull the same crap to BT, BT could retaliate too when negotiations for BT sports come around.
End of the day it's going to get very messy and there will only be one loser and that is us the consumer.

Yes and now Malone owns Formula 1, who knows what bun fights there will be in the future with rights to show that?

denphone · 28-01-2017, 20:31

The board is set, the pieces are moving. We come to it at last... The great battle of our time.

alwaysabear · 28-01-2017, 20:51

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Originally Posted by denphone

The board is set, the pieces are moving. We come to it at last... The great battle of our time.

The two main pieces are getting on a bit now Murdoch is 85 and Malone 75.

denphone · 28-01-2017, 20:56

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear

The two main pieces are getting on a bit now Murdoch is 85 and Malone 75.

It was meant in jest AB but perhaps if you put two well known forum grandee's together

it could be handbags at ten paces.

Aguero9320 · 28-01-2017, 22:21

A potential tactic for Discovery to take is to close down Quest and allow DMAX to go FTA. Furthermore, I would keep Discovery, Discovery Science, Animal Planet, TLC, ID and Eurosport 1 & 2 HD behind a pay wall and allow the re-launched DMAX, Discovery History, Discovery Turbo, Discovery Shed, Home & Health and Eurosport 1 & 2 SD to become available to Freeview and Freesat as well.