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Old 04-02-2011, 13:28   #46
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

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Who said we are talking about TV Choice? That is designed for specific reason, not to be bang up to date
ok so tell me a current series thats on demand and in front of the linear broadcast.
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Old 04-02-2011, 13:31   #47
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

Sky's over hyped under performing channels are of no consequence to me, I have many ways and means of obtaining any program they carry on SA. I have no intention of getting worked up over a channel that by next year will be as crap as sky one.
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

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ok so tell me a current series thats on demand and in front of the linear broadcast.
Just because there isn't one now, doesn't mean there won't be
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ok so tell me a current series thats on demand and in front of the linear broadcast.
Thats not what he said is it.
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Just because there isn't one now, doesn't mean there won't be
Agreed but cant see it happening anytime soon it hasnt in the US.
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

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Agreed but cant see it happening anytime soon it hasnt in the US.
Just wait
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

I appreciate VM are moving forward with an On Demand idea however their rights packages simply aren't enough to compete with a linear TV station + DTR yet. I am absolutely certain this is not entirely their fault but if distributors wont let stuff go On Demand before it gets on Sky Atlantic then VM need Sky Atlantic!

Take the LOST example - when we lost Sky One in the far-gone wilderness of 2007, Virgin Media "struck back" by telling its customers they too would have LOST, on demand, without adverts. Excellent... except it was on a 1 year delay.

Well that's no bloody good then is it?!

I'm sure this wont be the case forever, but for whatever boring behind-the-scenes reason, On Demand content is not up to competing with linear TV yet.

Most importantly - idiot Joe Bloggs in the street will choose between Sky and VM based on what 'telly' they can get. On Demand is hardly even on Joe Bloggs' horizon yet.
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

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Just wait
Personally DF i hope your right however I cant see this scenario ever panning out.
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

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I appreciate VM are moving forward with an On Demand idea however their rights packages simply aren't enough to compete with a linear TV station + DTR yet. I am absolutely certain this is not entirely their fault but if distributors wont let stuff go On Demand before it gets on Sky Atlantic then VM need Sky Atlantic!

Take the LOST example - when we lost Sky One in the far-gone wilderness of 2007, Virgin Media "struck back" by telling its customers they too would have LOST, on demand, without adverts. Excellent... except it was on a 1 year delay.

Well that's no bloody good then is it?!

I'm sure this wont be the case forever, but for whatever boring behind-the-scenes reason, On Demand content is not up to competing with linear TV yet.

Most importantly - idiot Joe Bloggs in the street will choose between Sky and VM based on what 'telly' they can get. On Demand is hardly even on Joe Bloggs' horizon yet.
VM doesn't need Sky Atlantic, Sky want you to think you need it on VM. They are doing their usual tricks of saying "VM won't pay our reasonable offer"

All indicators show that more and more people are timeshifting their TV. I know I don't watch anything, apart from news live anymore. it's either TiVo'd or On Demand.
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

On demand makes me get XL TV from Virgin, it is more of an up-seller I think.
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

Ok so you can see a time when lets say Hawaii Five O is put on the On Demand before its shown on linear TV ?
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

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VM doesn't need Sky Atlantic, Sky want you to think you need it on VM. They are doing their usual tricks of saying "VM won't pay our reasonable offer"

All indicators show that more and more people are timeshifting their TV. I know I don't watch anything, apart from news live anymore. it's either TiVo'd or On Demand.
Did you read my post? Only you haven't really responded to what I said about VM On Demand being unable to compete effectively with linear channels +DTRs.

For many Sky Atlantic is going to be an irresistable pull. My parents are included in this. They, like many others I suspect, aren't changing yet because they hope Sky Atlantic will make its way over. Dad's giving them until the new Football season or he'll take a bundle from Sky.

I'd argue that Sky probably would need Virgin in order to make the channel a success, but I think many VM customers are narked they don't have it.
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Did you read my post? Only you haven't really responded to what I said about VM On Demand being unable to compete effectively with linear channels +DTRs.

For many Sky Atlantic is going to be an irresistable pull. My parents are included in this. They, like many others I suspect, aren't changing yet because they hope Sky Atlantic will make its way over. Dad's giving them until the new Football season or he'll take a bundle from Sky.

I'd argue that Sky probably would need Virgin in order to make the channel a success, but I think many VM customers are narked they don't have it.
Yes, I did read your post. Have you not read my responces above?

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Ok so you can see a time when lets say Hawaii Five O is put on the On Demand before its shown on linear TV ?
Yes
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Yes, I did read your post. Have you not read my responces above?

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Yes
We'll have to wait and see but cant see it myself , personally I think people see VoD as more of a tape recorder to catch it if they missed it or forgot to record it with there DVR.
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Yes, I did read your post. Have you not read my responces above? [COLOR="Silver"]
Yeah - you rejected my arguement that customers want Sky Atlantic based on 'indicators shoving people moving towards ondemands/tivo'. Well TiVo is only any good if there's a linear channel showing the content in the first place!!

As for On Demand, I repeat my argument that it's useless unless it can beat or at least match the delay between US broadcast and UK linear-channel broadcast. See my example re:LOST.
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