27-08-2012, 16:54
|
#1
|
Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2007
Services: Virgin Media TV XL and Phone Size M and
Broadband size L
V+HD and VHD
Posts: 235
|
Tivo troubles
Had TiVo now for a while, my parents can't get on with it! I've got a tech coming on Wednesday as have signal issues with On Demand. Would I be charged if he took out the TiVo and put a V+ back in?
|
|
|
27-08-2012, 18:20
|
#2
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: North-West Kent
Services: VIP
Posts: 2,887
|
Re: Tivo troubles
They won't charge you. But they won't do it either. V+ is discontinued except for swap outs.
|
|
|
27-08-2012, 18:29
|
#3
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Deepest pits of Hell
Age: 39
Posts: 4,966
|
Re: Tivo troubles
Although if the engineer has some old stock in his van you might, MIGHT, get a V+ box installed again. I was told that the V+ was out of stock, but when he came to install TiVo he put a V+ box in the second room as he had one in the van.
|
|
|
27-08-2012, 20:44
|
#4
|
Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2007
Services: Virgin Media TV XL and Phone Size M and
Broadband size L
V+HD and VHD
Posts: 235
|
Re: Tivo troubles
I'm in contact with someone at head office who has authorised my account to have a V+ added instead of a TiVo. Also, will it affect my contract?
|
|
|
27-08-2012, 20:48
|
#5
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: North-West Kent
Services: VIP
Posts: 2,887
|
Re: Tivo troubles
Oh good effort! In that case I guess you'll need to ask your contact.
|
|
|
27-08-2012, 20:50
|
#6
|
Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2007
Services: Virgin Media TV XL and Phone Size M and
Broadband size L
V+HD and VHD
Posts: 235
|
Re: Tivo troubles
Ill give him a call and ask tomorrow. V+ was so much user friendly. TiVo is awful at recording In my opinion, programmes getting clipped etc. the only thing which is good is the hard drive space. I don't use suggestions or any other features. Also it looks a bit nicer than the v+ menus.
|
|
|
27-08-2012, 20:55
|
#7
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: North-West Kent
Services: VIP
Posts: 2,887
|
Re: Tivo troubles
You can turn clipping off though.
|
|
|
27-08-2012, 20:56
|
#8
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Deepest pits of Hell
Age: 39
Posts: 4,966
|
Re: Tivo troubles
This is another classic case of if the TiVo box is set-up correctly, it can be an excellent piece of technology.
|
|
|
27-08-2012, 21:08
|
#9
|
Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2007
Services: Virgin Media TV XL and Phone Size M and
Broadband size L
V+HD and VHD
Posts: 235
|
Re: Tivo troubles
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkC1984
This is another classic case of if the TiVo box is set-up correctly, it can be an excellent piece of technology.
|
I've had it for over a year now. None of the features are much use to me accept the hard drive space. I've turned clipping on and off, still messes up. For example last night I had this -
19:58 - 21:03 BBC1 recording
19:58 - 21:03 ITV1 recording
20:58 - 22:03 BBC2 recording
the v + would have just clipped automatically and all 3 recorded without trouble. On TiVo I get a message when the 3rd programme is starting to record saying that I have to change to one of the channels for it to record. Very annoying, also if clipping is on, it clips the start of the 3rd recording, not the end.
|
|
|
28-08-2012, 03:48
|
#10
|
cf.addict
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 134
|
Re: Tivo troubles
Quote:
Originally Posted by chunkymonkey
19:58 - 21:03 BBC1 recording
19:58 - 21:03 ITV1 recording
20:58 - 22:03 BBC2 recording
the v + would have just clipped automatically and all 3 recorded without trouble. On TiVo I get a message when the 3rd programme is starting to record saying that I have to change to one of the channels for it to record. Very annoying, also if clipping is on, it clips the start of the 3rd recording, not the end.
|
Just having a little trouble understanding your example, every program you show would have recorded in full on TiVo regardless of whether overlap protection is on or off. However on the V+ it would have to clip two of your programs as it drops the padding from the end of one and the start of the third recording.
Your example makes it a no brainer, 3 full recordings on TiVo or 1 full and 2 clipped recordings on V+!
|
|
|
28-08-2012, 07:34
|
#11
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: North-West Kent
Services: VIP
Posts: 2,887
|
Re: Tivo troubles
I think the issue is that TiVo doesn't dedicate a tuner to live TV meaning that in the example given all the tuners were in use whereas v+ would have allowed you to carry on without asking to change channels. Of course, as you rightly point out, the benefit is that TiVo actually does the job its supposed to do ie. deliver three full recordings, whereas v+ would have clipped two of them.
|
|
|
28-08-2012, 11:34
|
#12
|
Inactive
Join Date: Dec 2005
Services: Virgin 100 meg BB, Talk More Anytime Phone, Mix TV, V6.
Posts: 4,729
|
Re: Tivo troubles
V+ automatically droped padding if a recording channel change was required so you didn"t get the situation that you get with tivo, where a tuner is sometimes taken up just because of padding.
In practice i found with V+, that the although it droped padding, because only a small percentage of shows actually need padding, combined with the fact that only a percentage tuner/recording/channel allocations needed padding to be droped, everything worked really well with my default 5 min before and 10 min after default padding.
Because of the way Tivo handles padding, my defaults are zero and I add a little padding to only a very few specific shows. And again, it works really well. But I prefer the V+ method and think that padding is one area where V+ is better than Tivo.
|
|
|
28-08-2012, 12:20
|
#13
|
Permanently Banned
Join Date: Apr 2011
Age: 56
Services: XL TV, XL Phone, 30mb BB, 1TB Tivo
Posts: 3,722
|
Re: Tivo troubles
Quote:
Originally Posted by chunkymonkey
On TiVo I get a message when the 3rd programme is starting to record saying that I have to change to one of the channels for it to record. Very annoying...
|
I don't often have three things recording but I don't usually see that message when I do.
I have a theory that you will only see that message if you have watched #live tv' on that third tuner within the last... I don't know... 30 mins or so. So it's really just a 'safety' feature.
That said, I have three things set to record tonight at 9pm so I'll let you know what happens. (And I'll try to to go to 'live tv' within the preceding hour.)
|
|
|
28-08-2012, 12:41
|
#14
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Deepest pits of Hell
Age: 39
Posts: 4,966
|
Re: Tivo troubles
YES! YES! YES! Welcome back Carl, nice to see you back here.
|
|
|
28-08-2012, 12:41
|
#15
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 8,888
|
Re: Tivo troubles
Quote:
Originally Posted by carlwaring
I have a theory that you will only see that message if you have watched #live tv' on that third tuner within the last... I don't know... 30 mins or so. So it's really just a 'safety' feature.
|
Your theory is correct. If there has been any activity on a tuner recently, it assumes you are using it. I think the timeout is an hour.
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:58.
|