07-10-2016, 19:09
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Re: Large bundles of Channels
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If Discovery, National Geographic and Fox came onto freeview i would drop pay tv in a flash
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l cannot see that happening anytime soon.
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07-10-2016, 21:24
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Re: Large bundles of Channels
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If I went to a resturant for a meal and was told I had to pay for 4 others to be able to get one I'd have something to say about it.
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Even if you could get all 5 for less than the price of one?
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07-10-2016, 21:28
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Re: Large bundles of Channels
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Even if you could get all 5 for less than the price of one?
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If I could get all 5 for less than the price of 1 I would expect 5 portions of carp to be put in front of me and would refuse to pay, wouldn't eat and go elsewhere.
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07-10-2016, 22:21
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Re: Large bundles of Channels
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If I could get all 5 for less than the price of 1 I would expect 5 portions of carp to be put in front of me and would refuse to pay, wouldn't eat and go elsewhere.
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Nice to see that some of us still have principles!
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08-10-2016, 13:43
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Re: Large bundles of Channels
This is interesting from Canada where the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission ordered cable providers to offer a pick & pay TV service.
http://www.crtc.gc.ca/pubs/pick&pay_infographic_ENG.pdf
So the basic package costs $25 Canadian dollars per month (£15.00). Bell Canada have been one of the first companies to fully embrace a la carte and are charging between $4 and $7 Canadian dollars per additional channel (£2.40 and £4.20). Customers can however choose to add 10 channels for $20 Canadian dollars (£12.00).
http://www.bell.ca/Fibe-TV/Fibe-Prog...icon-container
Here's some info on what the other Canadian cable companies are planning to offer and charge:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle28951724/
The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission have been flooded with complaints since the launch of the service. Whilst they ordered this a la carte style TV service they did not set out what prices cable companies should be charging for individual channels. Most consumers are finding the new service, when adding just the channels they want, more expensive than their previous bundled TV. Consumers are also complaining that some cable companies are tying the basic "Skinny basic TV package" to expensive broadband and phoneline rental packages. There's also been leaked memo's from some of the cable companies showing customer service staff have been advised to talk the service down and attempt to migrate customers enquiring about the service onto other more expensive packages.
Still very early to say how things are going to pan out as the service isn't fully implemented until December. It's a good idea by the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission but it's clearly open to abuse. They would really need to set a must pay price for individual channels other wise cable companies could simply over price the channels effectively strangling the service from birth.
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08-10-2016, 14:56
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Re: Large bundles of Channels
Thanks for that Chad, I found that an interesting read.
It was as predicted would happen if such a system were introduced here, but is this because economies of scale, bulk buying, cross subsidy etc were no longer at play or because the Canadian cable company were being greedy and awkward.
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08-10-2016, 15:15
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Re: Large bundles of Channels
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Thanks for that Chad, I found that an interesting read.
It was as predicted would happen if such a system were introduced here, but is this because economies of scale, bulk buying, cross subsidy etc were no longer at play or because the Canadian cable company were being greedy and awkward.
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Here's more info:
http://playbackonline.ca/2016/09/08/...-crtc-hearing/
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08-10-2016, 15:31
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Re: Large bundles of Channels
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Thanks again, it looks like the former as opposed to the latter.
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08-10-2016, 17:35
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Re: Large bundles of Channels
People are fed up of getting fleeced and paying for lots of Channels they never watch.
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08-10-2016, 18:24
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Re: Large bundles of Channels
But inertia and indolence is deeply embedded MM as many won't change and won't even phone up retentions to get a much better deal so personally l don't think things will change that much.
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08-10-2016, 19:45
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Re: Large bundles of Channels
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But inertia and indolence is deeply embedded MM as many won't change and won't even phone up retentions to get a much better deal so personally l don't think things will change that much.
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They already are changing Den.
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08-10-2016, 20:07
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Re: Large bundles of Channels
Perhaps in America but certainly not that much over here MM but alas you are probably more knowledgeable then l on the subject.
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08-10-2016, 20:15
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Re: Large bundles of Channels
I wouldn't bet on it
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08-10-2016, 20:27
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Re: Large bundles of Channels
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Perhaps in America but certainly not that much over here MM but alas you are probably more knowledgeable then l on the subject.
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Don't you keep telling us the majority of Sky's additions are Now TV subscribers (smaller bundles ) , BT now has over 2.5 million subs (Pay TV lite). None of the providers give us breakdowns of whose subscribing to what so it's difficult to know just how many are taking the top packages.
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08-10-2016, 20:34
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Re: Large bundles of Channels
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Don't you keep telling us the majority of Sky's additions are Now TV subscribers (smaller bundles ) , BT now has over 2.5 million subs (Pay TV lite). None of the providers give us breakdowns of whose subscribing to what so it's difficult to know just how many are taking the top packages.
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From what l read and hear the vast majority on the top packages are not downgrading that much MM but as you say its very hard to get a complete breakdown from any of the providers and they ain't likely to change that stance anytime soon.
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