Junior Doctors Prepare For First Full Walk-Out - Page 17

Osem · 25-09-2016, 20:05

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Originally Posted by martyh

It stinks to me .I'll bet that the doctors themselves have told the chief instigator of all of this(Dr Ellen McCourt) that enough is enough ,we got what we wanted and more .I'm even prepared to bet in the next few weeks there is an announcement from the BMA that the doctors are prepared to accept the new contract

It'll be interesting to see if you're right. I can't help thinking that politics has been a major factor in this dispute and a great many doctors may agree that things need to change but haven't been at all comfortable about the way this has been handled by their representatives. To so stridently refute claims that patient safety would be put at risk for so long only to suddenly now claim the situation's changes materially, lives will be put at risk and that's the reason for the change of heart is the sort of thing politicians are renowned for and that should never be an accusation able to be levelled at our doctors upon whom we all rely sooner or later.

Chrysalis · 25-09-2016, 22:12

to the mods, this thread seems broken, it shows a page 17 but when I click it, it just reloads page 16.

TheDaddy · 26-09-2016, 02:23

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

to the mods, this thread seems broken, it shows a page 17 but when I click it, it just reloads page 16.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...0#post35859570

Btw the verdict is in on Wednesday from the courts...

**Hugh** · 28-09-2016, 14:50

The verdict is in...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-37481677

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Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt has won a High Court fight with junior doctors in England over a new contract.

The group Justice for Health mounted a legal bid arguing the contract was "unsafe and unsustainable" and Mr Hunt did not have the power to impose it.

But Mr Justice Green ruled the health secretary had acted "squarely" within his powers in what he did.

The judge noted that while he approved the contract, he was not necessarily compelling NHS trusts to introduce it.

The ruling comes just a week before the new terms and conditions are due to start to be rolled out.

The judge also considered whether Mr Hunt's actions lacked clarity and transparency and whether he acted irrationally in pursuing the new contract on the basis he believed it would help improve the quality of care at weekends.

On both counts, Mr Justice Green sided with the government.

Osem · 28-09-2016, 16:19

Obviously one set of experts disagreed with another as is usually the case.

Let's hope this matter is soon put to bed (pardon the pun) because the last thing anyone wants is further chaos in the NHS at the worst possible time of year.

TheDaddy · 28-09-2016, 19:40

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Originally Posted by Hugh

The verdict is in...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-37481677

Let's look a bit more in depth at what was said

http://www.justiceforhealth.co.uk/

Mr K · 28-09-2016, 19:56

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Originally Posted by Osem

Obviously one set of experts disagreed with another as is usually the case.

Let's hope this matter is soon put to bed (pardon the pun) because the last thing anyone wants is further chaos in the NHS at the worst possible time of year.

Surely the NHS should be able to cope all year round if we all dug in our pockets and properly funded it instead of demanding tax cuts.